Weight of 150 upstairs..

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what you might be able to do is get 2 planks of say 2x6 and put one under each row of legs to transfer the weight to the floor properly?

might not look great but it should do the job...

!!!! Just make sure the wood is true and not warped !!!!
 
Hi... This is my first post and this is quite a good one to start with...

I call it... "No good deed goes unpunished...!!!"

My mom, who lives alone said to me while talking about how much she liked my african tank... "I should put one of them in my den one day"... My reply was... "Mom you're 72... One day was yesterday...!!"

So I statred the process of figuring out what tank would work best... Due to size restrictions I settled on an All Glass 110 G with the Modern Series Stand. I ordered everything then one night... I couldn't sleep... kept thinking about the tank... then... it hit me...!!!

The tank would located in the den, which is over the garge, which contains her Lexus... the tank would be located above the windsheild... With nothing supporting the tank just the flooring!!!!!!!! I had a vision of the tank falling through the floor and destroying her baby!!!!

So I got on the phone and called Nic, a client of mine who is a Structural Engineer. He came out and looked at it... He said that the flooring in the house, which was built in 1935, had a "normal" load rating of 40lbs per sqft. If I remember correctly the weight of the tank I was calculating, including about 480lbs of texas holey rock. was going to be around 270 lbs per sqft... Tanks foot print is 8 sqft total weight around 2,160 lbs

Bottomline = Longterm it would have caused major structural problems... it may not have gone through the floor into the garAge right away but...

Soloution = The solution we went with were two Engineered beams across the span underneath the tank paralell with the joists and hung to the concrete block walls with special hangers and Hilti Bolts and anchors epoxied in place. Then thin cross pieces of like 1x 2s were placed perpendicular to the joists every 16 inches. In affect, the load just transfered to the new beams...

So what started out as a simple thing for my mom turned into about a $7,000.00 fishtank... of which 500 was for the engineering, 2,800 for the structural work....

Now for the... "No good deed goes unpunished" part...

Everthing was done. I just had to put in the rocks and fill it with water. As I, (who should have waited for for buddy Richie to help me!!!!!!), was on a step ladder, (2nd step), moving in a very large, 28" x 19" x 6", flat, akward, and of course heavy piece of holey rock into the tank... my left arm straightened out and my Left Bicep muscle ripped off of the bone...:WHOA: the rock still had not touched the bottom and I had no idea how far it still had to go... so... I lifted it back out.... and waited patiently for Richie with Ice on my shoulder which is where my Bicep was now living...

There is a morale here somewhere... But I have writen too much already for my first post... If someone can see it... make mention of it for the groups benifit... John
 
malawi mayhem;1650477; said:
Hi... This is my first post and this is quite a good one to start with...

I call it... "No good deed goes unpunished...!!!"

My mom, who lives alone said to me while talking about how much she liked my african tank... "I should put one of them in my den one day"... My reply was... "Mom you're 72... One day was yesterday...!!"

So I statred the process of figuring out what tank would work best... Due to size restrictions I settled on an All Glass 110 G with the Modern Series Stand. I ordered everything then one night... I couldn't sleep... kept thinking about the tank... then... it hit me...!!!

The tank would located in the den, which is over the garge, which contains her Lexus... the tank would be located above the windsheild... With nothing supporting the tank just the flooring!!!!!!!! I had a vision of the tank falling through the floor and destroying her baby!!!!

So I got on the phone and called Nic, a client of mine who is a Structural Engineer. He came out and looked at it... He said that the flooring in the house, which was built in 1935, had a "normal" load rating of 40lbs per sqft. If I remember correctly the weight of the tank I was calculating, including about 480lbs of texas holey rock. was going to be around 270 lbs per sqft... Tanks foot print is 8 sqft total weight around 2,160 lbs

Bottomline = Longterm it would have caused major structural problems... it may not have gone through the floor into the garAge right away but...

Soloution = The solution we went with were two Engineered beams across the span underneath the tank paralell with the joists and hung to the concrete block walls with special hangers and Hilti Bolts and anchors epoxied in place. Then thin cross pieces of like 1x 2s were placed perpendicular to the joists every 16 inches. In affect, the load just transfered to the new beams...

So what started out as a simple thing for my mom turned into about a $7,000.00 fishtank... of which 500 was for the engineering, 2,800 for the structural work....

Now for the... "No good deed goes unpunished" part...

Everthing was done. I just had to put in the rocks and fill it with water. As I, (who should have waited for for buddy Richie to help me!!!!!!), was on a step ladder, (2nd step), moving in a very large, 28" x 19" x 6", flat, akward, and of course heavy piece of holey rock into the tank... my left arm straightened out and my Left Bicep muscle ripped off of the bone...:WHOA: the rock still had not touched the bottom and I had no idea how far it still had to go... so... I lifted it back out.... and waited patiently for Richie with Ice on my shoulder which is where my Bicep was now living...

There is a morale here somewhere... But I have writen too much already for my first post... If someone can see it... make mention of it for the groups benifit... John
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Wow.. thats some first post.. remind me never to add holey rock in my tank :WHOA:
 
your problem hear is your house is not that old :D

they dont make them like they used to :D

my house is victorian and is built solid as a rock i have a 350g on floor boards with no problems its been ok for 15yrs

one way you chould save on the weight is get an acylic tank that will save you 40kg

a 180g acrylic tank is not that heavy no more than 4 people if your house cant hold that you have problems the big bad wolf may huff and puff to blow your house down
 
T1KARMANN;1653376; said:
your problem hear is your house is not that old :D

they dont make them like they used to :D

my house is victorian and is built solid as a rock i have a 350g on floor boards with no problems its been ok for 15yrs

one way you chould save on the weight is get an acylic tank that will save you 40kg

a 180g acrylic tank is not that heavy no more than 4 people if your house cant hold that you have problems the big bad wolf may huff and puff to blow your house down
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The OP's problem isnt really the weight it is the style of stand.
 
Westie;1650257; said:
"Follow the joists Luke."
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If you "follow the joist" [run parallel] you might only have 2 or 3 joists holding up your tank (only 2 if the depth of your tak is less than 32"). If yo run perpindicular, in a 4' tank, you catch 4 joist (0,16,32,48).

Kurt
 
wergeld10;1655019; said:
If you "follow the joist" [run parallel] you might only have 2 or 3 joists holding up your tank (only 2 if the depth of your tak is less than 32"). If yo run perpindicular, in a 4' tank, you catch 4 joist (0,16,32,48).

Kurt
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He was making a reference to starwars... "follow the force"

He meant check the joist and set the tank based on them...lol:ROFL:
 
malawi mayhem;1650477; said:
So I got on the phone and called Nic, a client of mine who is a Structural Engineer. He came out and looked at it... He said that the flooring in the house, which was built in 1935, had a "normal" load rating of 40lbs per sqft. If I remember correctly the weight of the tank I was calculating, including about 480lbs of texas holey rock. was going to be around 270 lbs per sqft... Tanks foot print is 8 sqft total weight around 2,160 lbs

So what started out as a simple thing for my mom turned into about a $7,000.00 fishtank... of which 500 was for the engineering, 2,800 for the structural work....
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Sounds like your structural engineer was trying to just make a buck, although I don't know your exact circumstances. The strength of your floor is accumlative so the 2160 lbs is not only being supported by the 8 square foot of floor that the tank sits on. If the tank is sitting parrallel to the floor joists, the extra support was likely needed.

In my case I have a 180g glasscages tank sitting on a stand made of 28 concrete blocks, the total weight is approx 2800 lbs with a footprint of 6' x 2'. The tank sits accross 4 floor joist and in between to more, joists are on 24" centers. The span of these joists is 10.5 foot. So the area of floor that my tank sits within is 105 sq foot which was engineered to support a live load of 4200lbs.

Even though I am within design parameters I spent a couple hours and 50 bucks to add more strenght to the floor. Most likely the 150g will be fine, important thing is to place the tank perpindicular to your floor joist. But to be absolutely sure you may want to seek advise of a structural engineer.
 
Ok, my friend lives in an old brownstone building here in NYC. He is on the 2nd floor. He has, a 180 tall, a 125 long in the same room, 2 110's in the bedroom, and a 20 high, and a 20 long. For about 12 years now these tanks have lived there. He said he asked how the beams under the flooring ran so he could set the tanks going against them not with. So far, never had a problem, but also, the engineering reinforcement might be better when that old ass house was built.lol.
 
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