Weld-on #40 and #42

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To clarify, I am just reinforcing the front two seams. Will a pint of 40 be enough?
Vertically is the hardest way to work with 40. It is doable tho. A pint should do yeah i think. More is always better tho also. Theres alot of material to cover with 1” rod. Honestly 1/2” or 3/4” rod could be better just for the fact ull probably get more glue behind the rod. Thats more important than using a thicker rod in my opinion. A strip on the outside of the tanks is pretty beneficial also if the seams are really bad. Either way works, inside or out. Both is pretty much making it bullet proof.

As for application… squeeze/squirt type bottles can work. I use the kind for dying hair or the cheap ketchup/mustard type bottles. You can kinda reuse them but they eventually become disposable. Large 1”+ diameter syringes can work with the tip cut wide. The glue is like cheap cold syrup consistency. Ull be needing alot of glue tho and may waste time there trying to fill the syringe and apply it. Its hard to guesstimate the amt of glue youll need until u do one. Worst case scenario after the rod is glued in you can go back over the 2 ends with more 40 like u would with silicone on a glass tank. You can fill in any air gaps behind the rod as best as possible there also. If ur doing a 1/8” bead/seal most of it will stay put. Some will run down of course before it dries. IME youll have around 15-20 min pot life on the glue. Be carful with syringes/bottles. When the glue goes off its quick and gets pretty hot.

Another tip/trick for working vertically is using tape to cover the area u glued to hold it in. IME packing tape comes off the glue the easiest leaving behind minimal residue. Its hard to peel off the acrylic tho. When they seam together tank panels on sight they actually tape the back seam and simultaneously run tape up the seam bottom to top while injecting glue in. You can get empty silicone tubes and pack them urself with 40 to do things like that.

Lots of ways to work with the glue and solve ur problems. Just have to plan/think it out before you add that hardener. Once thats in its about 15 min to work and thats it. Youll have 1 shot to slap those rods on. They wont come off even if u did a terrible job lol… 40 sticks to itself unlike silicone so worst case scenario u just then seal both sides of rod as mentioned earlier or do an outside strip patch if water breaches behind the rod anywhere just to be safe.

Its a tough one… ive used the squeeze bottles, ive used brushes to wet the tank and the rod before applying and no 1 way is really easier or less messy than the others. Its a pain on large tanks but the best way is to not work vertically and move em. You could glue the bottom/top of the rod in place leaving a 1/8” gap behind then inject from the bottom up covering with tape to hold it in like they do seaming panels. Tough there tho as well shooting to go behind the corner/rod. Only positive of that method is just work ur way up taking ur time. 40 will adhere to itself so u can go 6-12” at a time if u need to not really wasting much glue either.

Most of the rod i put in i used #16 and it failed. How i got into tip/pouring with 40. 40 is most excellent for patch work tho. Used that many times for bulkhead patches, removing overflow boxes and outer patches for seams. Sometimes u just gotta throw as much glue down as u can and slap ur patch on quickly 😂. Tape holds it in place. Its actually better “loose fit” if u dont squeeze all the glue back out.

Hope my long rant helps you decide one of the ways to solve ur problem 💀🤙. No 1 way is better than the other in every scenario. Ive been in ur shoes also working on a 500g with no help to move it.
 
wednesday13 wednesday13 That is very helpful info. It gives me alot to think about. I might try the idea of bonding the top and bottom in place, then working 6-12" at a time.

I didn't even think about how difficult it would be to get the glue behind a 1" square rod. Unfortunately, I already bought it. Maybe I might try splitting the square rod into two triangular rods. It would probably make each side about 3/4".

I am still reading through this entire thread, currently on page 14. Lol. I saw one of the comments that mentioned #4 or #40 could possibly be applied to crazing to help reduce the visibility. I purchased the aquarium with almost the entire side full of light crazing. I wonder if 4 or 40 would be better to use.
 
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wednesday13 wednesday13 That is very helpful info. It gives me alot to think about. I might try the idea of bonding the top and bottom in place, then working 6-12" at a time.

I didn't even think about how difficult it would be to get the glue behind a 1" square rod. Unfortunately, I already bought it. Maybe I might try splitting the square rod into two triangular rods. It would probably make each side about 3/4".

I am still reading through this entire thread, currently on page 14. Lol. I saw one of the comments that mentioned #4 or #40 could possibly be applied to crazing to help reduce the visibility. I purchased the aquarium with almost the entire side full of light crazing. I wonder if 4 or 40 would be better to use.

#40 def. will not help crazing… it is a good way to make it tho lol… theres no cure for crazing IME… Are u sure its not just scratched? Odd for just 1 panel to look like that unless a previous owner used something like acetone or a chemical cleaner on it. When 40 cures it usually crazes the material. Its basically just revealing whats already there from the material bowing over time. Thinner material and older material both craze worse. 3/4” material is usually pretty safe to any patches or glue work.
 
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#40 def. will not help crazing… it is a good way to make it tho lol… theres no cure for crazing IME… Are u sure its not just scratched? Odd for just 1 panel to look like that unless a previous owner used something like acetone or a chemical cleaner on it. When 40 cures it usually crazes the material. Its basically just revealing whats already there from the material bowing over time. Thinner material and older material both craze worse. 3/4” material is usually pretty safe to any patches or glue work.
Definitely not scratched. It looks like small cracks but they aren't deep. And you see them when viewed from the side of the acrylic. Both side panels of the aquarium are the same, none of the long face panels are like this. I am assuming that the previous owner tried to clean it with some type of cleaner and create small cracks.

As you can see from the side pics that look straight into the acrylic, the cracks aren't deep at all and i can't even see them.

The last pic is also of some small crazing that I am curious if #4 will help "fill in" and conceal it.

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To clarify, I am just reinforcing the front two seams. Will a pint of 40 be enough?
A pint is more than enough. Tilting the tank is the best method, but if you can’t, you can’t.
A syringe is a great idea. I would soak the area first, starting at the top and letting the glue drip down. Then pit the 1” rod in place and reapply the glue liberally. More is better than less. The extra weld-on will collect at the bottom. You can wipe that up with a paper towel, it’s not an issue because you can cover that area with sand/gravel.
Lean something against the square rod to hold it in place and keep some pressure on it while it’s drying.
I’ve used this stuff to repair many tanks and never had a problem. It’s very forgiving.
 
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If it’s just the side panels then cover them with a background. No one watches fish from the side anyway. My 1100 build I did a one piece of flexible background that went from one side of the tank, across the corner over flow to the back, then along the back to the next corner over flow then to the other side of the tank. It looks great. It’s one big wall like a stage for the fish to be displayed.

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Definitely not scratched. It looks like small cracks but they aren't deep. And you see them when viewed from the side of the acrylic. Both side panels of the aquarium are the same, none of the long face panels are like this. I am assuming that the previous owner tried to clean it with some type of cleaner and create small cracks.

As you can see from the side pics that look straight into the acrylic, the cracks aren't deep at all and i can't even see them.

The last pic is also of some small crazing that I am curious if #4 will help "fill in" and conceal it.

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😬 yeaaaah…. Thats crazing all right.. i was hoping not. Agree with ya that someone used a cleaner or straight acetone on that 100% sadly. #4 cant hurt if u take some and wipe it over an area to see if it does anything. I agree with Egon tho to go with a backround to cover the sides up. Ive painted heavily scratched tanks that looked very nice afterwards. At the least id paint the sides black and go from there. U can always glue in 1/8” black acrylic inside also.
 
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