I bought them from a guy here in columbus, Ive only had them for about a month. I was going to sell them because i have two peacock bass, two silver dollars, and these guys in a 240, and here soon im going to put my redtail tiger shovelnose cat in their also, so i wasnt sure if id have the room? Plus i dont want them to get eaten after all of the other fish pass them up in size!