What are your thoughts on this..

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Stingrays or aros require alot of water, a ray needs alot more depth, that looks to be 6-10" of water in that tank and my guess is it has 35-50gallons of water in it, not enough for either fish. But smaller fish will be ok. It does look great and if you have the $$$ itd be cool but id start with a basic tank to learn the needs of fish let alone reptiles!!!

GL

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I would either pick an anaconda or some fish. I wouldn't risk it because anacondas are HUGE. I didn't even know anacondas were legal to keep. If you do put fish with the anaconda I wish for the best for you. Also, try to not to get killed by the anaconda :ROFL:
 
Stingrays or aros require alot of water, a ray needs alot more depth, that looks to be 6-10" of water in that tank and my guess is it has 35-50gallons of water in it, not enough for either fish. But smaller fish will be ok. It does look great and if you have the $$$ itd be cool but id start with a basic tank to learn the needs of fish let alone reptiles!!!

GL


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6"-10" of water? 35-50gal? That's a school of Oscars....that tank is 10'-15' long....:screwy:
 
Would a protein skimmer not be as useful for getting rid of the large amounts of waste then? A UV is the way to go you think? I've never really looked into them tbh!

A protein skimmer is more of a marine filter used to remove dissolved protein and other organic compounds in the water before they can break down and become nitrates. I have heard of them being used for large ponds but I don't think it would be necessary in an aquarium. A UV will keep algea and pathogenic micro-organisms in check thus keeping the water clear. A bio filter will still be needed as a UV doesn't "filter".
 
Lol, yep that tank is about 12ft long, theres a good 3ft of water depth in there! I also keep discus in my paludarium so am quite familiar with fishkeeping :) I'd be after a male anaconda which grows much smaller than the females shown in that tank (around 6-8ft) so should be much more manageable! I dont think I'd feel too comfortable cleaning out a massive 15ft females enclosure!!

Ahh thanks boldtogether thats good to know, will do some research :)
 
Would a protein skimmer not be as useful for getting rid of the large amounts of waste then? A UV is the way to go you think? I've never really looked into them tbh!

A protein skimmer is more of a marine filter used to remove dissolved protein and other organic compounds in the water before they can break down and become nitrates. I have heard of them being used for large ponds but I don't think it would be necessary in an aquarium. A UV will keep algea and pathogenic micro-organisms in check thus keeping the water clear. A bio filter will still be needed as a UV doesn't "filter".
Well, I don't know about the skimmer, but Anacondas prefer to poo in water as far as I understand. They're the one constrictor type I haven't kept, so I'm no expert. A small snake that eats a mouse or two makes small poo. A 15' snake that just ate 5 rabbits will make a poo the size of an elephant, and the smell will make you want to cry. It's terrible. I wouldn't trust that mess to a skimmer. Even if the bulk of the waste could be dissipated or removed, the subsequent water fouling wouldn't be ok, either.That would be my biggest concern on keeping the fish and snake together. With that type of bio load, you have potentially lethal water all the time, unless you have thousands of gallons. I can't remember what size you were looking to build, so maybe that isn't an issue. I wouldn't be terribly worried about the snake eating the fish. It could happen, but if you've kept large constrictors before, I'm sure you know about feeding them. You'd need to remove him from his enclosure once a week or so, have a feeding pen of some sort for him, feed him whatever you choose, leave him be for a few hours to digest, then move him back to the original enclosure. If you learn his cycle, you may be able to keep the majority of his waste out of the water, but really, it's going to get bad.
I still think it's a cool idea. I think if you work the bugs out, you can make something really amazing happen. Here is a link to the DIY tank forum. You can follow any thread you'd like.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?335-DIY-Tanks
 
Haha no worries :D

Yeah I'm not too worried about the waste issue, hopefully there will be a large mass of water and male anacondas stay (relatively) small so hopefully they wont produce the jumbo sized waste females are capable of! Although yeah I hope to have some sort of routine which would allow his cycle to take place elsewhere.

Will have a browse at lots of other threads now :D
 
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