yah im going to stick to frozen once alive foods pellets and bloodworms and crickets and try earth worms when they get a little bigger but defenetly stay away from feeders, i just remember as a kid my step dad would buy goldfish for the oscars to eat, not all the time, but i figured id pick up feeders for them when i first got them. the more i read up on it on here the more i dont want to any more.