What do baby tire track eels eat?

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Well, guess what. I actually bought a juvenile tire track today, so the title of the thread is now true. It's around 7'' long I think. Buying it was a great risk, I was aware of that but I wanted to try my chances anyway. There were a couple of them. I asked the guy at the store when these fish arrived. He said the fish have been in the store for weeks. Then I asked him what kind of food he's feeding to the spiny eel. He said he gives them the regular deal (bad news.) So I asked him to feed the tank. He fed something like artemia, which the eels weren't interested at all. I was at the store to get a baby albino bichir, and since I already had zigzags, I thought what the hell.

I also got some frozen bloodworm cubes from that store (finally.) So I thawed a cube and dropped it to the tank.. only to watch my greedy baby bichirs eat them all. I dropped in some shrimp pieces to divert them, but they managed to eat them AND the bloodworms. The rest, my two ghost knives ate up.

Next time, I'll drop the worm cube last.
 
Do you have plans to upgrade in the future? The tire track will eventually outgrow the 130. That tank should last it about 1.5-2 years (most likely closer to the 2 year end, depending on the dimensions of the tank and how quickly it grows).
 
drgnfrc13;4760477; said:
Do you have plans to upgrade in the future? The tire track will eventually outgrow the 130. That tank should last it about 1.5-2 years (most likely closer to the 2 year end, depending on the dimensions of the tank and how quickly it grows).
I don't know yet? Two years is a long time.
 
my tire track has been my easiest spiney to get eating. Just be wary I've found with mine he will take any fish small enough to fit in his mouth. Does he have a patterned belly or unpatterned belly? this can make a difference in how large he's expected to get.. though personally I think all the spineys in the tiretrack/fire eel family can potentially reach 3' + It's a matter of husbandry, not genetics imo at this point since a majority are wild caught as far as I am aware. Generally the patterned belly will reach a max size of 24" and the unpatterned can rival or exceed the 3' mark.

BTW I keep 2 sengel Bichir and a juvie Ornate with my tire track and have only mild issues. I imagine in the future the Ornate may not be suitable since they have a rep for aggression. But my TT is currentlty 12"+ and the Bichir are around the 8" mark give or take. They can all make good tank-mates but keep an eye if you have any particularly aggressive Polys.
 
MonsterMinis;4761035; said:
my tire track has been my easiest spiney to get eating. Just be wary I've found with mine he will take any fish small enough to fit in his mouth. Does he have a patterned belly or unpatterned belly? this can make a difference in how large he's expected to get.. though personally I think all the spineys in the tiretrack/fire eel family can potentially reach 3' + It's a matter of husbandry, not genetics imo at this point since a majority are wild caught as far as I am aware. Generally the patterned belly will reach a max size of 24" and the unpatterned can rival or exceed the 3' mark.

BTW I keep 2 sengel Bichir and a juvie Ornate with my tire track and have only mild issues. I imagine in the future the Ornate may not be suitable since they have a rep for aggression. But my TT is currentlty 12"+ and the Bichir are around the 8" mark give or take. They can all make good tank-mates but keep an eye if you have any particularly aggressive Polys.
No, Mastacembelus favus (to the OP: that's the species with the patterned belly) do not exceed 28", and I'm pretty sure no other species of the genus reaches 36". And sorry to nitpick, but Mastacembelus is a genus, not a family. :)
 
I've checked it, I think the eel has no patterns on its belly. (Btw, the sticky doesn't mention M. favus.) It has tried a piece of chicken yesterday but didn't like the taste I guess, and spat it out. I'll try more bloodworms today.

I've noticed that one of my Zigzags looks a bit bigger. It's been a month since I got them now, obviously they're foraging some kind of food. If only I could see them eat.
 
drgnfrc13;4763011; said:
No, Mastacembelus favus (to the OP: that's the species with the patterned belly) do not exceed 28", and I'm pretty sure no other species of the genus reaches 36". And sorry to nitpick, but Mastacembelus is a genus, not a family. :)

;) someone has to nitpick.. my brother is the bio-major in my family. I just keep the critters. Now i want a patterned belly just to see if I can prove 28" isn't the full potential size :naughty: .. And I agree completely the science backs up all of the info. But there isn't extensive research on spiney eels out there. I always try and er on the side of caution. Very few of these species have been kept in captivity for extensive lengths of time outside Public Aquariums. Very little is actually known of these fish in the General Hobby.

OP: unpatterned belly is indeed the larger species. 24" -40" have been recorded in captivity for max sizes ( males are belived to be the smaller specimines, and a few large eels have been confirmed females.) I would be very surprized if any spiney took chicken. invertibrates, and fish are readily accepted foods. You should expect your tire track to hit 12" his first year.
 
My tire track juvie accepted some shrimp today. Feeding it won't be a problem. Would it be a dumb idea to put the baby zigzags and the cherry shrimp in a large bowl together, to facilitate feeding? I could order like 20-30 cherry shrimp each time, keep them alive in a small "farm" inside the tank, and offer a few twice a week. Would the stress reduce their appetite? I cannot buy cherry shrimp in massive numbers every time, obviously. The bichirs get to them quicker than the zigzag babies. (And the zigzags don't show any interest towards bloodworms.)
 
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