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Ulu said:
We went through this when subcontractors wanted to have engineering drawings done in far-flung places to save money.

We got the drawings in for Farmersville Highschool (in California) and they were done in Puerto Rico by someone who studied in metricland.

They submitted drawings with dimensions like 5/12" and 3'-17"
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Dang They submitted that? Lol

We have issues with dimension overrides and if a column line doesn't fit they just leave it off. I was field checking and was short 120' of pipe. I started looking and they modified dims then left of 2 steel column bays.

I told the main company I'm not sending another thing to Mexico. Well the head honcho came down and told me I would then explained that it was to keep us competitive. I later looked at the bid they submitted normal pricing then took advantage of cheap labor. Which isn't cheap considering we have to redo everything.
 
xraycer said:
LOL
Were the drawings done on reused Amazon cardboard boxes? :D
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No, LOL . . . they used genuine Autocad and submitted regular blueline drawings.

As engineers-of-record we had to check their work. After 3 botched submittals we forced the contractors to hire a domestic firm.

By the way, autocad had no problem with users inputting dimensions like 17/9 mm or 9'-99" and it works out all the conversions to 16 decimal places for you, then truncates to nine. Very accurate, but GiGo & it doesn't control the output format. Setting that up in Autocad is about 100x easier in the metric system than the US system.

(I don't call it the English system anymore. They went sorta sideways.)
 
PYRU said:
Dang They submitted that? Lol . . .
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The GC was a wine tank contractor that decided to get into building construction, and met all the legalities.
But they were out of their field, and the architect didn't toss them for cause, as they were too cheap.

This was because of proximity. Their mobilization costs were low plus local labor was too.

But the idiots blew it on the shop drawings 100 ways, and it had some bits of complex geometry that needed good planning.

Instead there was lots of field welding and patching where things didn't fit well. Lots of exposed metalwork was structural, so they spent any profits on grinding disks and rods.

When finished it was a lovely looking job, but nobody made a dime.

The only good thing about the entire project was that the State Architect complimented our drawings highly.
 
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