what do you feed your cichs to prevent HITH
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easydoesit;1774301; said:
Don't get to spendy on a CO2 outfit, You probably won't be able to make a ton of plants work with an oscar in a 125, nor do you want to be depleting oxygen due to high concentrations of CO2... if you do use CO2, I would use a yeast reactor with a basic bubble counter, nothing that gets excellent solvation(like a turbo reactor with canned CO2 and a powerhead).
Anyway.. I agree with everyone here that water quality is certainly the main cause for HITH, and you could certainly give him a better diet, although your current plan for a diet change is an excellent one!
Not about what you feed its about what not to feed don't feed them feeders and keep the water as clean as you can thats really the only way to prevent it
if you are using carbon in the filter
try dis-continuing the carbon
(just foam blocks, gravel, floss or whatever else)
...lots of our customers have had hole-in-the-head recede after ceasing carbon
try dis-continuing the carbon
(just foam blocks, gravel, floss or whatever else)
...lots of our customers have had hole-in-the-head recede after ceasing carbon
fishoverlivingspace;1774492; said:
By getting a Powerhead I believe he meant more surface agitation to remove as much CO2 from the water as possible. Not that much point to it, but increased flow is never bad.
As already stated by pretty much everything. High quality water and a varied diet of quality food is the most important. Whatever you do don't start feeding live fish.
clean water and a varied diet is all that is needed.
I've cured bad cases of HITH with nothing more than clean water, a high quality pellet (an good brand will work). IME Low stress with good food will prevent/cure it with ease.
I'll see if I can find my thread on my oscar.
Edit: found it
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74357
I've cured bad cases of HITH with nothing more than clean water, a high quality pellet (an good brand will work). IME Low stress with good food will prevent/cure it with ease.
I'll see if I can find my thread on my oscar.
Edit: found it
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=74357
i got a big bag of Hikari Gold today, the big pellets. i also got some "HBH Oscar Grow" food for just every once in a while instead of the Hikari pellets. this food is half sinking and half floating pellets and the ingredients looked alright. it was kind of cheap though, so its going to be mainly the Hikari for staple.
i was going to get the powerhead for adding some co2, but i decided against it. the plants are working out so far, but i see him inspecting the leaves then connecting them to the roots and going real close. then he turns away. any day now im expecting to see them uprooted lol. thats what floaters are for though.
if they do work ill just connect the DIY co2 to the HOB inttakes, wont get great diffusion at all i dont think, just a bit which is better than nothing.
i wouldve got crickets tonight but the LFS that i needed to go to doesnt have them.
next time i go to that specific store im going to get a bunch and stick em in a high bin with some veggies and water until theres no more crickets left(when my O has eaten them all).. then ill refill. this will ensure i can give him some live bugs on a good schedule. getting some shrimp tomorrow.
ive heard about the carbon theory. its not really backed up yet, but im sure there are some people who swear by it. i heard it only really happens when you have low grade carbon, like the ones that already come in the filter cartridges. the carbon balls scrape against eachother and create a carbon dust. when scientists tested this theory, they used carbon blocks.. most likely high grade. they concluded that carbon doesnt cause HITH, but they didnt have the carbon dust(which can pretty much be gotten rid of if you rinse the cartridges really really thoroughly before use). i actually got new cartridges a little while ago and thats when i noticed it.. but i dont think im going to blame it on the carbon. doesnt carbon become inactive after about a week anyway?
ill get some new, better filter media soon anyways(pot scrubbies, floss, foam)... without the carbon just incase.
i really do keep the water good, even though its cycling. ill just do more water changes(help) until i get the filter media with BB. it doesnt help that i have to fill my tank with gallon jugs.. with my sink downstairs and my tank upstairs, but atleast i get a good workout.
btw japes n anyone else.. im a girl, not a guy.
i was going to get the powerhead for adding some co2, but i decided against it. the plants are working out so far, but i see him inspecting the leaves then connecting them to the roots and going real close. then he turns away. any day now im expecting to see them uprooted lol. thats what floaters are for though.
if they do work ill just connect the DIY co2 to the HOB inttakes, wont get great diffusion at all i dont think, just a bit which is better than nothing.
i wouldve got crickets tonight but the LFS that i needed to go to doesnt have them.
next time i go to that specific store im going to get a bunch and stick em in a high bin with some veggies and water until theres no more crickets left(when my O has eaten them all).. then ill refill. this will ensure i can give him some live bugs on a good schedule. getting some shrimp tomorrow.
ive heard about the carbon theory. its not really backed up yet, but im sure there are some people who swear by it. i heard it only really happens when you have low grade carbon, like the ones that already come in the filter cartridges. the carbon balls scrape against eachother and create a carbon dust. when scientists tested this theory, they used carbon blocks.. most likely high grade. they concluded that carbon doesnt cause HITH, but they didnt have the carbon dust(which can pretty much be gotten rid of if you rinse the cartridges really really thoroughly before use). i actually got new cartridges a little while ago and thats when i noticed it.. but i dont think im going to blame it on the carbon. doesnt carbon become inactive after about a week anyway?
ill get some new, better filter media soon anyways(pot scrubbies, floss, foam)... without the carbon just incase.
i really do keep the water good, even though its cycling. ill just do more water changes(help) until i get the filter media with BB. it doesnt help that i have to fill my tank with gallon jugs.. with my sink downstairs and my tank upstairs, but atleast i get a good workout.
btw japes n anyone else.. im a girl, not a guy.
i know its not good, but i keep the levels low while its cycling was what i was meaning.. ammo under .25 ppm... never gets above that. its taking a while to cycle.
i dont have another system w/ bacteria. im going to try to get some from a LFS. i already did, but it did absolutely nothing for my tank, so im going to try another one, though i dont want to. i dont know anybody else that has an aquarium.
i already tried biospira.
when i got the new HOBs, they came with carbon inside the cartridges already.. marineland rite size Cs.. always have carbon inside them.
but i guess my planned diet is good for my O.. so thanks guys for the help, suggestions and heads-ups.
ps.. his cycle will be over soon somehow. im a good fish owner, really. i care about his health. he has a nice tank, and it will be perfect when it's cycled. hell be even happier than he his now.
i dont have another system w/ bacteria. im going to try to get some from a LFS. i already did, but it did absolutely nothing for my tank, so im going to try another one, though i dont want to. i dont know anybody else that has an aquarium.
i already tried biospira.
when i got the new HOBs, they came with carbon inside the cartridges already.. marineland rite size Cs.. always have carbon inside them.
but i guess my planned diet is good for my O.. so thanks guys for the help, suggestions and heads-ups.
ps.. his cycle will be over soon somehow. im a good fish owner, really. i care about his health. he has a nice tank, and it will be perfect when it's cycled. hell be even happier than he his now.
