What do you guys think

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I agree get rid of the star. That tank is way too tiny for a sand sifter. It will die from starvation so take it back to your LFS.
 
You don't wan to know what I think about you getting the anemone... you haven't even hit your diatom cycle yet and you already got one. If I were you I'd get rid of it. You have no fuge to remove nitrates, no light capable of housing and no true cycle in the tank. It's already starting to bleach an will surely die
 
Heres an update now. Everyone is doing good and dandy. Upgrade to 175watt 20k mh couple of days ago and everyone is doing good. And also got some amphipods in my tank and didnt know how that got their.

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shua71;4964664; said:
You don't wan to know what I think about you getting the anemone... you haven't even hit your diatom cycle yet and you already got one. If I were you I'd get rid of it. You have no fuge to remove nitrates, no light capable of housing and no true cycle in the tank. It's already starting to bleach an will surely die

I know its to soon for a nem and I should have waited till at least 6months in a cycled tank.

Also I havent did a wc in 3weeks and my water conditions are still perfect.
 
Dude, def remove the star. If it hasn't died already it will. Just not enough nutrient in a 10g for a sifter. Good luck with ur set up. I have a90g FOWLR and it has been cycling for 2 months and I just added a few small fish at first. My 20g nano, even after 6 mos. wasn't ready for a nem. Usually a tank, not only has to be ready, but it also has to be aged. I hope all works out for you. Keep us posted. By the way, a pulsing xenia is great. Stick with zoe's and SOFT corals!! Looks good. Lots o' water changes.
From what Ive been taught...1 year is the mark for adding nem's. TRY TO BE PATIENT. Forget the fish and corals and focus on water quality and a skimmer w/refugium all-in-one, they have hang on back ones.
 
I guess I am going to be joining in on the remove the sand sifter discussion. They require a nice deep sand bed that is very mature with lots of microfauna to graze on all day. I honestly dont even feel like the 130 I am in the process of building would be enough for them.

But its your tank, just trying to save you a nasty ammonia spike when it dies.
 
ninjastar;5015195; said:
I know its to soon for a nem and I should have waited till at least 6months in a cycled tank.

Also I havent did a wc in 3weeks and my water conditions are still perfect.

I'll admit I didnt read through the whole thread, but when I came across this I had to respond. I apologize in advance and if this has been discussed, but here is my two cents about this whole tank so far.

First off, the sand star is going to die. Plane and simple. The size of this tank will not be capable of providing an adequate food source for this inhabitant. With the death of the star, decaying matter will enter your tank and this will only lead to new problems.

The BTA is going to nuke your tank if you dont watch it. Because you jumped the gun and decided to buy one, your going to have to deal with the inevitable consequences. It may live for a month, maybe two, but it will eventually begin its destructive death cycle. I would take it back for store credit immediately.
Anemone Nuking (googled it and this is the first link...there are many more):
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/anemones/41929-anemone-nuking-tank.html

The HOB filter may be a potential problem and you may want to look into a DIY PVC overflow into a 10 or 20 gallon sump/refugium. If the HOB is not cleaned on a regular basis, this could be the Achilles heel of your tank. Do a little research on nitrate bombs and such for saltwater tanks and you may be amazed at what you find. I realize that this is usually a problem with canister filters on marine tanks, but HOB can do it too. A sump/refugium is ultimately the way to go. Also, a skimmer and more liverock will easily provide enough filtration. My little tip, a skimmer is the easiest way to be successful in this hobby.
I just did a 40g sump/refugium with a PVC overflow that is filtering a 29 G reef biocube. Ill dig up the link to my tutorial I made.
Read this:http://www.thereeftank.com/forums/f6/do-i-need-a-skimmer-161508.html
Quote from the threaded link.
Originally Posted by gce360
Um yeah It's like a regular over hanging filter with a sponge thing filled with carbon, and the hard sponge thing
HOB filters and canisters dont work extremely well. If you ask around here people will say they are a nitrate factory unless you constantly clean them. How much live rock do you have? If you have enough live rock you could use the filter to just provide some waterflow and house things like carbon.



My last and final point is one that I feel is undoubtedly the most urgent problem. Doing a water change once a month is not going to cut it. For lack of a better expression, that is like saying I'll just dump in my pants for a month and change it whenever I feel like it. Even if your water is perfect, your salinity is fine (which I doubt it is), and your inhabitants appear happy your still making them swim in disgusting filth. Although this may work for freshwater, it does not work for salt. You need to stick to a maintenance routine and not fault on simple,routine task. If you don't enjoy doing maintenance on your tanks then marine may not be for you, but if you dont mind spending an hour a week maintaining your investment then you should be fine.

I'm not trying to be the grumpy guy on the forums, I have just seen to many people fail at this hobby. Do what the knowledgeable folks on these forums say and you should be fine. After all the inhabitants in your tank want to live, you just need to provide them with an adequate habitat.

P.S. Most "knowledgeable" personal on marine tanks suggest a FULL YEAR before anemones are likely to survive.
 
When I first started the tank I did water changes and was thinking I wasnt giving it enough chance to start the cycle. Thats why I didnt do the w/c to see if it will starte the cycle or not. In which nothing has happend and my water parameters are still prestine. And Yes I do my weekly mantaince in which I have 4 tanks to clean all the way from the sumps to my pumps to doing w/cs and what not. I just stated that I havent did a w/c for 3weeks as a pastence in which I did do a w/c now. Also to add I do bi weekly checks on my water to catch anything before hand.

Also to add I been through this with this another thread. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393928

I just wanted this thread as a update and wanted to hear your opinions in which this is.





But is the star shifter realy that bad to have in a 10gal. I read that they need a dsb but ya.
 
ninjastar;5015635; said:
When I first started the tank I did water changes and was thinking I wasnt giving it enough chance to start the cycle. Thats why I didnt do the w/c to see if it will starte the cycle or not. In which nothing has happend and my water parameters are still prestine. And Yes I do my weekly mantaince in which I have 4 tanks to clean all the way from the sumps to my pumps to doing w/cs and what not. I just stated that I havent did a w/c for 3weeks as a pastence in which I did do a w/c now. Also to add I do bi weekly checks on my water to catch anything before hand.

Also to add I been through this with this another thread. http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=393928

I just wanted this thread as a update and wanted to hear your opinions in which this is.

But is the star shifter realy that bad to have in a 10gal. I read that they need a dsb but ya.

First off let me apologize if I came off in a hostile tone. That was not my intentions, I was simply trying to be informative.

Ok, glad to know that you familiar with sumps,etc. On a 10G tank its going to hard to house a number of items. Obviously size is a great concern,but small tanks are easily altered by the smallest of variables. With this being the case, it is important to keep a close eye on this tank in particular. Adding a sump/refugium of even ten gallons is going to make your life much easier. I am going to be adding a 10g sump to my 8g biocube in the near future to further stabilize it. Also, with a sump your going to be able to add a protein skimmer. You wouldnt want anything to big, maybe the biocube protein skimmer?It's small,easy,effective, and affordable. This is just going to make your life easier.
As far as the star goes, a DSB is a MUST! Even with a DSB, its still is going to be hard to house a SS star. As long as he isn't harmed in anyway, your LFS should take him back. How is everything else in the tank looking?
 
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