What exactly is a 'Mantilla' ray..

[ray777]

Yeah that Mantilla he had was Wow..

Has... I am sure thats what you meant. But I was trying to sell her and decided to just keep her. So I moved her to my other 210 all my herself for now, until I find a nice male Marble or something else to try

 

[cichlaguapote]

Has... I am sure thats what you meant. But I was trying to sell her and decided to just keep her. So I moved her to my other 210 all my herself for now, until I find a nice male Marble or something else to try

Haha.. no I knew it was for sale and saw you updated your list and it wasn't on it so figured you sold it. Glad you kept it. Thing is nice..

 

[rayman]

Hi Miles,

Richard Ross gave this name to some rays he got from man who worked for an importer in Florida, his name was Jose Mantilla. In the Aqualog P-numbers the mantillas are the rays Richard got from this source.

There are many so called mantillas, some may be hybrids.
But there is a river in Brazil where rays live that look very close to the mantilla ray. And these are no hybrids. Time will tell if this is a new species.

 

[stingrayguy]

Hi Miles,

Richard Ross gave this name to some rays he got from man who worked for an importer in Florida, his name was Jose Mantilla. In the Aqualog P-numbers the mantillas are the rays Richard got from this source.

There are many so called mantillas, some may be hybrids.
But there is a river in Brazil where rays live that look very close to the mantilla ray. And these are no hybrids. Time will tell if this is a new species.

Yeah, Thats what I thought, I remember him saying that. Might you know what part of what river?

 

[Nic]

i was told before hybrid and somebody else told me they were there own species... only real problem is is we all only have opinions cause nobody knows 100%.... maybe ill get lucky and my female tiger will breed with my male marbled and we will find out in a few years

 

[ray777]

Def look like a cross of tiger and Marble motoro. Here's a couple of pics of my Mantilla.

 

[endi]

i picked this ray up i was told its a mantilla correct me if i'm wrong

 

[Miles]

I wonder where Mantilla rays come from? what city/river?

 

[Fishes33]

Endi, how much u got that ray for? $2000? and its bigger than the average diner plate right?

 

[Miles]

So I have seen hundreds of so-called Mantilla ray variations..

No one seems to know the collection location..

I see hundreds of Hybrids that look just like Mantilla rays..

Is there any other distinguishing characteristics, such as eye placement, disc shape, etc, that distinguish these rays from so-called Hybrids?

Or is it all just a matter of opinion and no one really has any clue since it was a common name given to an unidentified ray??