What exactly is a safety factor?

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I've been looking at a site that does glass thickness, cubic area and safety factor options built in (you put the factor in). I only know the basics like taller tanks (above 24" I believe) need thicker walls and weight goes up dramatically. This also affects true volume.

So when people say a minimum safety factor, what are they talking about? And is this minimum close to failure?
 
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Safety factor refers to how much weight it will be able to hold past it's limit. Simply put, safety factor should be a minimum of 1.5 (hold 1.5 times the maximum weight it needs to hold, this goes for buildings/structures). A safety factor of 2 or more is really what you would need in order for it to be safe (hold twice the maximum weight it needs to hold), but some people go for a safety factor higher than 2.
 
Above explanation pretty much sums it up. Function of strength vs. capacity. The calculators you find online simply correlate the surface area of silicone on the tank wall to the load (in this case, water pressure) being exerted on it. Each type of silicone will have a different value for adhesion strength, usually in N/mm^2, so the safety factor will always vary somewhat according to the type of silicone used, and will generally vary much more depending on surface area (thicker glass=stronger bond).

I see the term brought up a lot in tank building discussions, but I think that too often the concept is misunderstood and not applied correctly in practice. Even with a safety factor of let's say 4, a lot of tanks will still fail when/if experiencing shock load, like if your 225g tank made with 1/2" glass were to shift suddenly and unexpectedly, the resultant tsunami in the tank could cause a blowout. I'm not saying that drunken idiots are bound to pass out and stumble into expensive aquarium sets every day, but hey this example is needlessly detailed for a reason.
 
Ah this clears it up...I thought it was some random math formula with an assigned value.
So maximum weight would be x the water weight and substrate? I have to admit I mistakenly thought the factor just involved glass thickness (like the pane breaking from being too thin) not the area of adhesion! But it makes sense now.

Are safety factors the same for acrylic?
 
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Safety factor refers to how much weight it will be able to hold past it's limit. Simply put, safety factor should be a minimum of 1.5 (hold 1.5 times the maximum weight it needs to hold, this goes for buildings/structures). A safety factor of 2 or more is really what you would need in order for it to be safe (hold twice the maximum weight it needs to hold), but some people go for a safety factor higher than 2.

3.8 is the usually quoted target safety factor for aquariums. Around 3 is more of a minimum. That leaves enough room for bumping into the tank, kids banging on it, rocks slipping inside. A moderate earthquake.
 
Ah this clears it up...I thought it was some random math formula with an assigned value.
So maximum weight would be x the water weight and substrate? I have to admit I mistakenly thought the factor just involved glass thickness (like the pane breaking from being too thin) not the area of adhesion! But it makes sense now.

Are safety factors the same for acrylic?

Well your seams are always going to be the weakest part of a glass tank unless the glass is damaged somewhere. The danger of the pane itself breaking typically comes with taller, larger tanks where water pressure starts to compete with the structural limits of the glass.

I'm not too familiar with acrylic but I know it has different tolerances than glass. For one it has a much higher modulus of rupture...glass is inflexible and will break as soon as it reaches its structural limit, acrylic has a generous capacity for bow and it's not uncommon to see large acrylic tanks that have been running for years with the panels bowing out over an inch in the middle, even with very thick stock.
 
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I think that the volume of water also comes into play, maybe more so when the tank is taller due to the pressure of the column of water.
 
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