All I want is a Tat or Armatus, But no one has seemed to be getting any all year but one LFS that has a Tat for $80 but it's too large, Last year their were payara everywhere including Armatus. But now I can't even find Scomb's! Can anybody clear up what is going on with the Payara harvesting?
What has happened to the Payara market?
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I don't know about the harvest itself, but the recession here in the US has severely crippled the fish market. Alot of my LFSs are closing down completely.
I believe the poor payara market is due to the simple practice of "safe marketting". fish vendors who want to cut down their stock only purchase the most hot-selling fish (aka goldfish, tetras, and African cichlids). Although this may be good for business, it takes alot of the nice monster fish off the market.
The problem may also be a supply and demand thing. With money being tight these days (at least in the US), fewer and fewer people are setting up tanks; let along the massive tanks needed for keeping payaras. Since people can't afford to set up the tank; they don't buy the fish. Because people don't buy the fish; the LFSs stop stocking them. Because the LFSs stop stocking them; alot of MFKs are pissed off
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But then again, these are just theories. Personally, I haven't seen a single Payara on the market for at least 2 years
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I believe the poor payara market is due to the simple practice of "safe marketting". fish vendors who want to cut down their stock only purchase the most hot-selling fish (aka goldfish, tetras, and African cichlids). Although this may be good for business, it takes alot of the nice monster fish off the market.
The problem may also be a supply and demand thing. With money being tight these days (at least in the US), fewer and fewer people are setting up tanks; let along the massive tanks needed for keeping payaras. Since people can't afford to set up the tank; they don't buy the fish. Because people don't buy the fish; the LFSs stop stocking them. Because the LFSs stop stocking them; alot of MFKs are pissed off
.But then again, these are just theories. Personally, I haven't seen a single Payara on the market for at least 2 years
.Exodon Man;4285373; said:I don't know about the harvest itself, but the recession here in the US has severely crippled the fish market. Alot of my LFSs are closing down completely.
I believe the poor payara market is due to the simple practice of "safe marketting". fish vendors who want to cut down their stock only purchase the most hot-selling fish (aka goldfish, tetras, and African cichlids). Although this may be good for business, it takes alot of the nice monster fish off the market.
The problem may also be a supply and demand thing. With money being tight these days (at least in the US), fewer and fewer people are setting up tanks; let along the massive tanks needed for keeping payaras. Since people can't afford to set up the tank; they don't buy the fish. Because people don't buy the fish; the LFSs stop stocking them. Because the LFSs stop stocking them; alot of MFKs are pissed off
But then again, these are just theories. Personally, I haven't seen a single Payara on the market for at least 2 years
Exactly what I thought...
FishInABowl;4285351; said:
I'll keep that in mind, Did you ever find out if you could get some Tat's or Armatus yet?
I had a Payara not to long ago..
Was by far my favorite. I acquired him when he was not to much over 3" and was stunning.
Shortly there later, his personal tank broke a seal and I was in a crunch.. I removed him and added him to (to my own stupidity) my 125 with a few SA/CA Cichlids, just till I had his tank fixed.
At first I noticed that these cichlids didn't care at all, nor payed him much attention. So I figured "Well .. he's in a much larger tank, plenty of space and room for hiding need that every arise... and put off fixing his tank..
There when he sat close to roughly - close to 9" one of my yellow labs really showed signs of aggression and would nip at him from time to time. Again, I failed to fix up what should have been his home.
One morning I woke to find him pretty beat up, stressed out and gasping. For the most part his dorsal and anal fin had been completely nipped away. In fear of the worst, I added him to a little 35gal. hospital in hopes he wouldn't make a turn for the worse.
I don't think he quite lasted 48hours. I was horrified, I took all the right measures to see that he recovered.. Had I in-fact, used my head and just placed him in the 35, for the time it would have taken to reseal his original tank, I more or less would still have him today.
.. I have often thought about getting another... and honestly don't have anything to back up me not getting one...
Here are a few shots of him when he was give or take 5-6"
(not the greatest pictures.. was new to snapping shots of fish)
There is a place not to far away, that actually has a good number of these guys for sale. There only tiny, maybe 3" ... and the price is right too...
maybe..
Anywho.. sorry to take over the thread. KillDog102. I hope it works out for you an you stumble across what your looking for
Was by far my favorite. I acquired him when he was not to much over 3" and was stunning.
Shortly there later, his personal tank broke a seal and I was in a crunch.. I removed him and added him to (to my own stupidity) my 125 with a few SA/CA Cichlids, just till I had his tank fixed.
At first I noticed that these cichlids didn't care at all, nor payed him much attention. So I figured "Well .. he's in a much larger tank, plenty of space and room for hiding need that every arise... and put off fixing his tank..
There when he sat close to roughly - close to 9" one of my yellow labs really showed signs of aggression and would nip at him from time to time. Again, I failed to fix up what should have been his home.
One morning I woke to find him pretty beat up, stressed out and gasping. For the most part his dorsal and anal fin had been completely nipped away. In fear of the worst, I added him to a little 35gal. hospital in hopes he wouldn't make a turn for the worse.
I don't think he quite lasted 48hours. I was horrified, I took all the right measures to see that he recovered.. Had I in-fact, used my head and just placed him in the 35, for the time it would have taken to reseal his original tank, I more or less would still have him today.
.. I have often thought about getting another... and honestly don't have anything to back up me not getting one...
Here are a few shots of him when he was give or take 5-6"
(not the greatest pictures.. was new to snapping shots of fish)
There is a place not to far away, that actually has a good number of these guys for sale. There only tiny, maybe 3" ... and the price is right too...
maybe..
Anywho.. sorry to take over the thread. KillDog102. I hope it works out for you an you stumble across what your looking for
TaylorD;4286259; said:I had a Payara not to long ago..
Was by far my favorite. I acquired him when he was not to much over 3" and was stunning.
Shortly there later, his personal tank broke a seal and I was in a crunch.. I removed him and added him to (to my own stupidity) my 125 with a few SA/CA Cichlids, just till I had his tank fixed.
At first I noticed that these cichlids didn't care at all, nor payed him much attention. So I figured "Well .. he's in a much larger tank, plenty of space and room for hiding need that every arise... and put off fixing his tank..
There when he sat close to roughly - close to 9" one of my yellow labs really showed signs of aggression and would nip at him from time to time. Again, I failed to fix up what should have been his home.
One morning I woke to find him pretty beat up, stressed out and gasping. For the most part his dorsal and anal fin had been completely nipped away. In fear of the worst, I added him to a little 35gal. hospital in hopes he wouldn't make a turn for the worse.
I don't think he quite lasted 48hours. I was horrified, I took all the right measures to see that he recovered.. Had I in-fact, used my head and just placed him in the 35, for the time it would have taken to reseal his original tank, I more or less would still have him today.
.. I have often thought about getting another... and honestly don't have anything to back up me not getting one...
Here are a few shots of him when he was give or take 5-6"
(not the greatest pictures.. was new to snapping shots of fish)
There is a place not to far away, that actually has a good number of these guys for sale. There only tiny, maybe 3" ... and the price is right too...
maybe..
Anywho.. sorry to take over the thread. KillDog102. I hope it works out for you an you stumble across what your looking for
Nice scomb ya got there, Looks just like mine did before he died and got his corpse eaten by hungry pacus and jack dempsey's while I was asleep lol, Anyways yeah I really want to pick up a Tat the Red Tailed Sabertooths but they just arent popping up anywhere.