what is better a Sump or Canister filter?

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I am planning on getnig myself a 6 or 7foot tank but im not sure which filter to go with,

a Sump or a Canister filter

can any one point me in the right direction please :)
 
I like wet/dry....I think it's all preference.
 
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A 6 or 7ft tank. I am guess the dimensions will be around 6x2x2?

For large tanks, sumps can be cheaper. For larger tanks you will need multiple canister filter which can start to cost $$. Such as 2 Fx5s would be around $450 w/media if your lucky. BUT, in the long run, 2 Fx5s may be a lot cheaper. @ Fx5s would equal to 10 liters of bio, more mechanical than you would ever need and those to filters together would only consume about 103-105 watts @ 1200 GPH. A Quiet One 6000 pump which are very efficient at pumping with low power consumption, would be around 140 watts to get 1200 GPH at 4 ft head.

The Fx5 I am just using as a example and not trying to steer you to buy it but it is a great filter over all with a high flow rate....again, not trying to talk it up, but no other canister filter has that flow rate and media capacity for the price....really, just using as an example :)

I really like canisters over sumps due to the fact that they can be less noisy, take 1/3 the space of a sump, cost lots less to run in electricity, can filter mechanically better in some cases and there may be some others but thats enough for now.

You can design a sump to handle almost any size tank you want at any filtration volume and flow volume and perform a variety of different filtration types such as, Mechanical (Stepped PPI), Chemical (Carbon, Phosban, etc.), Biological (Nitrification and Denitrification). You can do the same in a canister but not at nearly the volume extent you can with a sump.
 
Canisters IMO are harder to maintain. Everytime you have to do anything to them you have to unplug them and then unscrew or latch a lid and then dig out the media. You have to dig out several layers to get to what you need. And With a canister you still have all the heaters and and other epuipment in the main tank. And IMO heaters and tubes and other junk looks tacky in a tank. And plus if you are aiming for a certain turn over rate for say a fish that likes a swift current you have to buy a bigger canister to get that higher gph. -----------------------------------------And with a sump you can custom build what ever you like. And you never have to shut it off to maintenance it. Just lift out the the filter material and wash it and lay it back in there. If say you treat with meds and then want to put some carbon in the water to help remove them. Then all you do is lay a sack of carbon in the flow. No takeing the top off or shutting it down and less mess and time to do so. You canhave all your heaters and other components in the sump to free up veiwing pleasure and space in the tank. Also you can build a sump to use a very cheap filter material. And most of the time a sump will accomidate a larger amount of biological media and there for will support a larger bio load. And having more bio area lets you use less expensive bio media's to get a certain amount of surface area. And they are cheaper to put together. There is limitless possibilities of things that you can do with a sump.
 
hybridtheoryd16 says it pretty well.

If one fish in the tank, get a canister filter.

If a gaggle of fish go with a W/D or sump filter either of which can be as quiet as a canister or better.

Dr Joe

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Ransom;2782568; said:
I am planning on getnig myself a 6 or 7foot tank but im not sure which filter to go with,

a Sump or a Canister filter

can any one point me in the right direction please :)

How many gallons?
I personally would not go the wet/dry route, since I like canisters a lot :) There are really good, heavy duty canister filters out there, that are extremely quiet, and can get the job done for you for small/medium-sized tanks (i..e, ~240 gallons on thereabouts). For such tanks, its probably personal preference.
 
It is hard to beat (if not impossible) a well thought out sump system.
1. Can have endless possibilities
2. Tons of media capacity
3. A great place for heaters etc.
4. Can do maintenance functions from your sump. (very nice for salt water)
5. Can be cheaper.
6. This list goes on and on.

Ofcourse there are some advantages to canisters but compared to a quality sump it has a shorter list of pro's and con's.
 
i agree with heavyhitter and hybridtheoryd16

i love sumps for thier endless possibilites and the fact i can hide alot of stuff in there.
also sumps main advantage IMHO is that they are highly adaptable to what ever you are planning to keep in your tank be it fresh or salt, mechanical or biological filtration and so on.
but as the oscarguy said there are lots of good canisters out there that can work on your tank.
so dont count them out.

also you can have a look at my setup which i just did its a 6 foot by 30 inches by 30 inches and it has a sump.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=211974
 
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