What is it? ID??

[Miles]

Thanks Miles.... I appreciate the input. So you're saying it's NOT worth $200?

They have a lower initial value out of the wild than Motoros.. so if he is charging more than what he charges for common Motoro (not marble) than he is just inflating prices..

I would say $100-150 especially coming from an importer/vendor.. depends on size, too..

I personally don't like the guy at all so I will refrain from commenting any further

 

[Big Daves Rays]

cool looking ray, but not for 200.00. There was a similar one at a local lfs and it was 260.00. I laughed when the guy told me the price.

 

[Miles]

Size and collection area is a factor in the price.. if the ray is large enough where it can only be shipped 1 per box, that will double the price. If it came from Colombia, its a shorter flight distance than Peru. Either way, these 'Common Rays' as fisherman would call them are very abundant and they sell them to exporters for about 1/2 the cost of a low-grade Motoro.. My 'landed cost' estimations could be off because I havent imported in a few years and gas prices have gone up, so I am sure box charges have as well..

 

[DB junkie]

Thank you Miles for refraining from turning this into mud slinging. Coming from someone standing on the sidelines it gets old real fast. All I was asking for was info and it seemed the post turned sour immediatly without me even goin so far as to mention where it came from. I'm not here to advertise for anyone. And it shouldn't matter where I aquired this specimen from. And that shouldn't make a difference as to weather or not information about this specimen can be shared with me. I'm simply looking for knowledge. I think that's what this forum is for. What is passed on to me will be passed on to other hobbyists. I'm going to assume that we should be able to share knowledge without any childish name calling or making accusations. I just thought it was a somewhat appealing ray and was thinking about getting more......

 

[Zoodiver]

Looks very similar to orbig pups I've have in the past.

 

[DB junkie]

Any pics Zoodiver??

 

[DB junkie]

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87012&highlight=mantilla+ray+pupsWhat an interesting stroll down memory lane. The subject of this thread now resides in my pond.

 

[Nic]

should be worth about 100$....

 

[andersp90]

I think its a ray?

 

[stingray man]

Common brown ray from either Peru or Colombia.. if it costs more than a Motoro, someone is

could be Dumerelli, Orbignyi, Humerosa.. depends alot on regionality and better pix.. but I dont know how to tell the 3 apart anyways

I agree common brown ray peru or colombia, and they should be a rathey cheap ray compartially speacking.