What is the smallest growing Amph. species?

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Sagittae males get about 10-12" in length. Some exceptions from time to time of course. Camphilophus has a male that is approx 10-12" and his female is like 7" or so.
 
I haven't found much size difference in any of the citrinellus complex. I have several species, and all are a foot or larger (males anyway).

Personally, I'm beginning to think this genus has been split up too much.

klmt: yes, xiloas do get nuchal humps and are available in several colors.
 
very nice. Do you know of anyone that has a male xilo or sagittae, because id like to see pics of a male.
 
other than the ones already posted. id like to see a few specimens of each, and some information on them.
 
Are you guys just looking at the midas types? There are several smaller Amphilophus species out there.....longimanus, altifrons, rostratus just to name a few.
 
Tug;2956356; said:
Are you guys just looking at the midas types? There are several smaller Amphilophus species out there.....longimanus, altifrons, rostratus just to name a few.
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I think for the purposes of this thread they are considering those species as Astatheros. Some sources do, and some lump them in Amphilophus.
 
Even though Astatheros isn't completely accepted, it was very clear that those sandsifters didn't belong in the same genus as the midas complex ... My guess of lyonsi being the smallest remaining Amphilophus at 8-10" is going on the theory that the sandsifters are most deffinately in another genus, weither it's Astatheros or something new. At the moment Astatheros is valid for the sandsifters, though it might change so they shouldn't be lumped as Amphilophus atm.
 
Cool, I wasn't sure how everyone was viewing the genus. I didn't know that the 'sandsifter' comment was refering to all Amphilophus species except the midas types.

Personally I can't keep up with all the spliting and name changes anymore.;)

So for the sake of this thread and not to hijack I would have to say lyonsi also. Although I've seen some massive lyonsi in my day!
 
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