Not care if talking human eat vegetarian diet or not, but I think not good to encourage Cichla or dovii or RTC or jardinii onto vegetarian diet?!? But then, if I buy meat for jardinii to eat, I think my jardinii also say to me, "Kuji, you also eat some, please, because we friends and we share!"
What it means to be a vegetarian
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I watched the meat.org video in the OP's signature and its all true and good except for one point; none of those problems old Macca talked about are directly caused by eating meat or animal products, they are caused by intensive factory farming and human greed. I eat meat fairly regularly, most days in fact, but I will only eat free-range pork and chicked (and eggs) as I can't stand the thought of battery hens and intensive farming as shown in the video. I don't eat commercially caught seafood and usually only eat fish when I (or someone I know) has caught it fresh. I also drink milk, but the dairy industry here in New Zealand is far different to that shown on the video where cows are kept inside and fed grain (yes it is still a cause of river pollution, and the laws around that are being tightened up, but it is still a huge improvement on factory farming).
Eating meat isn't necessarily a bad thing, it is humans disregard for animal rights that is the real cause of the problem...
Eating meat isn't necessarily a bad thing, it is humans disregard for animal rights that is the real cause of the problem...
HA! A cow feed family of four for a year? Don't make me laugh bones make up 40% of a cows body weight. Lets Not forget all the trim off fat 5%, and organs 30%, blood 10%, lets see cows get 2000lbs but that takes 25 years of growth. Therefore the average weight of a slaughtered cow is 600lbs divided by trimmings (85%) and u have maybe 90lbs of meat. How exactly do u keep meat in the fridge for a year? It would be spoiled in a month. The average male consumes 5lbs of food daily. Now lets see 5lbs x a family of four is Oh maybe 20lbs a day. That massive cow only lasts 4-5 days nice try.
Entirely 100% not true in any way possible. First look at your dentition and compare it to a cat. Notice a difference? Yep that's right humans are naturally omnivorous, cats are carnivorous. Omnivorous animals generally eat 99% veggies like tortoises but with the occassional snail or fly. Vegans are actually so much healthier than people that eat meat their hasn't been a SINGLE documented case of heart disease, cancer, stroke, or absolutely any disease related to diet In vegans EVER! Btw diet related diseases make up 68% of every disease. In fact the average vegan only sleeps 6 hours a day! Vegans are SO much more energetic their 80% more likely to live past 75 years old. Vegans are SO MUCH healthier than meat eaters words cannot explain the difference. If it could it would be the difference between mt everest peak and the mariana trench.
Btw did u know that the vast majority of models (~70%) are vegetarian. Eating veggies but no meats. Why in the hell would we get our veggies grown from the wild? Your argument makes no sense, we would replace the vacant meat slaughterhouses with farms. They would not need any more land, simply take over the old meat/cattle land. Therefore taking up no more space. Yeah your right it IS really easy to spot a veagan. The healthy, muscle rich people. Veagans have more energy. Veagans have much stronger bones. DID YOU KNOW OUR ANCESTOR, THE APE WITH 98% OF OUR DNA EATS EUCALYPTUS? Did you know for the past 30,000 years up until 300 years ago people have always eaten veggies? I bet you didn't know its actually impossible, without question never been a case to get fat being true veagan? Did you know the average veagan lives almost twice as long as meat eaters? Ever wonder why their hasn't been a single predatory species live past 50 years? And why tortoises can live almost 400 years old? I bet u can figure that one out. It has to do with animal protein.
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Didn't read past the second sentence person above me but I'd just like to say that my family has raised beef cattle and in a mere 15 months, they put on 1200 pounds. We're not talking about trees here. We're talking about an animal. They grow pretty quick. And I'd say honestly, we raised three at one point and only kept one and we didn't buy beef for better than a year. This is an American family of 5 who probably wasted more of it than necessary. Let's expand that in some sort of soup or something... Plenty to eat for several years.
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Not really worth addressing, but your math on the cow is terrible. We eat the fat, the bones and most of the organs, too. Why would you only eat the muscles? That makes no sense. The fat and organs are the most essential, anyway. Then, you try to make a person eat 5 pounds of meat a day. That makes no sense. I eat about one pound a day, plus tallow and organ meats, etc. Plus a fasting day and it's only 6 pounds of animal per week per person. And nobody just eats cows. I also have duck, lamb, a lot of seafood, etc. So I might eat three pounds of cow per week at that rate. Times four, and that's 12 pounds of cow per week per family. A cow weighs 3300 pounds, so that's WAY more than enough for a single family. It's called a freezer.
The rest of your post makes you look like a crazy ape, so I'm going to just let you wallow in it. Veganism is unsustainable, and it robs the planet of vital resources. Vegans are malnourished, as a rule they have to be.
Models are stupid, starving waifs and a great example of why not to be a vegetarian. See how they wobble and teeter? They're on the verge of collapse.
I have very sharp teeth. Designed for tearing flesh. They work great, by the way.
And if meat is so bad, why has my health only improved the more of it I add to my diet?
In case any of you didn't know the average human eats 2x the recommended daily protein consumption. Eating to much protein is the #1 cause of heart disease in america. Over 100,000 cases of heart disease surface yearly, less than 50 protein deficient cases have surfaced in the past decade! Protein is actually a health concern says the america heart association, its now being considered more deadly than fat.
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The reason the average vegan can be considered 'healthy' than your average poorly paid McDonalds muncher is quite simple: vegans watch what they eat. If you took a very healthy omnivourus individual who exercised regularly and ate mostly organics rather than factory farm raised animals you would probably have fairly even results when it comes to overall health. Look at Bruce Lee, sure he died early due to circumstances not yet understood, however...uh look at that guy, and what did he eat? Mostly meat. To convince me otherwise I'd need to see some unbiased paperwork from scientific studies regarding this. It would have to compare two people who eat healthy non processed food stuffs and are similar in body type. Hard to do, considering all the different factors that go into making what would be called a 'healthy individual'.
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No, eating too much vegetable oil and processed, toxic fake meat like salami and lunch meats, and the white bread they come with, are more likely the culprit for heart disease.
Fat is not deadly. It's not even dangerous. Saturated fat from free-range/wild animals is among the least inflammatory, most heat-stable and safe foods that exist. Are you stuck in the 80's?
How much of Weston A. Price's work have you even studied?
Fat is not deadly. It's not even dangerous. Saturated fat from free-range/wild animals is among the least inflammatory, most heat-stable and safe foods that exist. Are you stuck in the 80's?
How much of Weston A. Price's work have you even studied?
And a looooot of what you are saying sounds like it was pulled from a vegan website and not looked into.
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