What kind of cichlid is this?

Jeditaz

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I bought this from a local LFS and it was labeled as an electric blue Johanni. After research I learned johanni don't ever have vertical stripes. Please help if anyone has ideas
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Jeditaz

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looks like a johanni to me.
Thank you DR T. I was looking online and some posts say johanni don't have vertical stripes, it's hard to get good info. I was about to return him or her but I thought I would ask first. Also do electric blue johanni go well with demasoni and cynotilapia afra cobue? They are all juvenile
 

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I could be wrong but every one that i have seen has vertical stripes. I'm no expert but as for recommendation. it depends on the size of the tank and a few other factors. I would say they will probably be fine. I would worry a little about con-specific aggression because they do all look similar but I would say you'll be okay. once again i have mostly kept Central and South American cichlids so I am not sure and theres no way to be certain.
 

Jeditaz

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I could be wrong but every one that i have seen has vertical stripes. I'm no expert but as for recommendation. it depends on the size of the tank and a few other factors. I would say they will probably be fine. I would worry a little about con-specific aggression because they do all look similar but I would say you'll be okay. once again i have mostly kept Central and South American cichlids so I am not sure and theres no way to be certain.
Thanks, looking at pictures online I've seen some johanni with "checkered" stripes with both vertical and horizontal but the first johanni I got was only horizontally striped so then I started freaking out about crossbreeding. The tank they are in is a 75 gallon (48"x18"x21") the filter is an emperor 400. When my fish start to mature I will get a second filter with the minimum filtration power of a penguin 200. Depends on if someone buys my second 29 gallon tank. My wife won't let me keep two tanks lol. Stock is as follows:

6 cynotilapia afra cobue
2 melanochromis johanni (electric blue)
2 labidochromus caerulius (yellow lab)
1 maylandia estrathe (red zebra)
1 pseudotropheus demasoni

I want to make decisions on what schools would be good for my situation.
Any advice is always appreciated
 

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I don't see why they wouldnt be fine in that size of a tank. especially since non of those fish get over 6". However there are always exceptions. Just keep an eye out on them. a little aggression or picking here and there is to be expected but if you start to see one getting bullied or singled out then i would remove the one being bullied. Just keep up your water changes and the fish should stay happy and healthy.
 

Jeditaz

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I don't see why they wouldnt be fine in that size of a tank. especially since non of those fish get over 6". However there are always exceptions. Just keep an eye out on them. a little aggression or picking here and there is to be expected but if you start to see one getting bullied or singled out then i would remove the one being bullied. Just keep up your water changes and the fish should stay happy and healthy.
Thanks Dr. I am planning on getting at least pairs of each fish. My concern is the yellow lab and red zebras cross breeding though so I am debating on keeping only two yellow labs and two red zebras only. Demasoni I've read prefer to have 12 in a school, I can't fit that many so I was think of leaving just one single. They I was considering 6 of another mbuna species any suggestions?
 

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Johanni are evil little bastards. Porbably will kill your demasoni, as demasoni look similar but are smaller and less tough. I would say your stock is all pretty good except the johanni. You might have luck with them and get some that aren't so bad, but they definitely are a little more aggressive than the other fish on your list.
With mbuna, I find it is better to get larger groups of fewer species, than to get a few specimens of more individual species. They tend to be more aggressive to their own kind, and in a group of 5 or 6, that aggression is spread out. But if you only have two, especially if they are both males, the stronger one tends to kill the smaller one.
 
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