so what makes a tank a monster tank? is it gallons? foot print? what fish are in it? i know the forum is monster fish keepers as in big fish. but would the tank i'm building be considered a monster tank? 132''lx16"wx16d" for a hill stream loach tank. hardly a monster fish but a long tank. i just got the glass yesterday and plan to start this weekend. just curious if this is a monster fish keeper worthy thread/build.
what makes a monster tank?
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Sure it is. My interpretation of MFK is that we are the monsters. There are members on this site that have 10 gallon tanks, others with 1000+ gallons..
If a guy with a 10 gallon tank puts his heart into proper fish keeping, while a guy with a 1000gal neglects the hell out of his.. I speak for alot of us around here, when i say that the true MFK out of those two would be the 10gal guy, due to the fact that he takes pride and actually cares about his fish and beeing a true fishkeeper.
If a guy with a 10 gallon tank puts his heart into proper fish keeping, while a guy with a 1000gal neglects the hell out of his.. I speak for alot of us around here, when i say that the true MFK out of those two would be the 10gal guy, due to the fact that he takes pride and actually cares about his fish and beeing a true fishkeeper.
Uh oh,a similar thread resulted in a bunch of arguing and seemingly hurt feelings so this one should be fun.
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Im a fancy goldfish and koi nut. I'd hardly call those monsters. I've been keeping and learning about fish for a little over 30 yrs. I'd have to agree with the interpretation that WE are the monster rather than the fish. Be sure to post pics of the tank you're building amd the fish it's for. I'd love to see 'em.
I may be the odd one out, or perhaps I'm one of the few ones that read the little notification you get before you sign up.
I've taken the liberty of copy and posting it for everyone so no one has to go trying to find it thus disrupting the flow of my post. Here it is
"The members of this forum have come together to share our knowledge and experiences of fish keeping. We want to answer your questions, offer advice and fill the galleries with pictures of the fish we have all grown to love.
We are a unique community of Fish Keepers who seriously take our hobby to extremes and the NEXT level. The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS. It's not easy for most people or other "regular" fish keepers to understand why we maintain this type of collection and spare no expense on this fascinating hobby."
Hopefully, through this site and discussion forums we can encourage the next generation of Monster Fish Keepers to have the same passion and love we have for the hobby and our Monster Fish .
As one of the founding members, I personally invite you to register and join us today. Currently you are viewing this site as our guest which only gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and photo galleries."
Now, the single most important part of that whole post to me personally is this.
"The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS."
The most important part of that individual section of the post that I have pulled out is "BIG TANKS" because without the big tank you can not have big fish. The only fish that can have big enough appetites to qualify for the site are BIG fish so big fish are mentioned twice basically. Now, since big tanks are the most important thing the size of the fish can be ignored as long as the tank is big enough. No one here would disagree, well except maybe
vincentwugwg
, that a 800 gallon with large fish can be called a monster fish tank. Now what if we had a 1,500 gallon planted freshwater tank with large numbers of tetra and similar fish? Would you say that it isn't a monster fish tank? I highly doubt many people would say that it is not a monster fish tank.
If you have a large fish tank and large fish that can eat through a normal person's pay check with ease it qualifies as a monster fish tank without a single doubt.
Now lets go back to a previous persons post.
mattison187
said "If a guy with a 10 gallon tank puts his heart into proper fish keeping, while a guy with a 1000gal neglects the hell out of his.. I speak for alot of us around here, when i say that the true MFK out of those two would be the 10gal guy, due to the fact that he takes pride and actually cares about his fish and beeing a true fishkeeper."
Now I can agree with the general feeling that you get from the post which should be somewhere along the line of "the guy with the 10 gallon is the true fish keeper, the other guy is an imposter."
What I can't agree with is that you called the 10 gallon keeper the true MFK. Lets put it the long way shall we? You believe that the 10 gallon fish keeper is the true fish keeper.
Ok, now lets look up the definition of monster shall we? Oh no, don't worry, I looked it up and got it for you
. Here it is
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monster
Now if you look at definition 3B, you'll find that the definition of monster that we are looking for says " one unusually large for its kind".
Now, lets consider the 10 gallon. If you have a little knowledge of the aquarium world you will know that a 10 gallon is commonly called a "loss leader" because the places that sell them lose money on them but those 10 gallons get people in the hobby and into the store to spend money. Point is, a 10 gallon is one of the most common sizes you can find.
Now lets go back to the definition of "monster", it is "one unusually large for its king".
Who thinks that one of the most common sizes, a 10 gallon is unusually large for tank sizes? Go on, find someone, I'll wait...
Find anyone? I thought not.
Now I believe I've addressed everything I wanted to address so I'll just leave it here. Before I go I'd like to make it clear that I'm not attacking anyone, I just view things from a very technical stand point. I see most things in black and white, it is uncommon that I see gray areas. The definition of monster fish keeper is almost a dark black, little room for seeing it differently.
If anyone has a problem with my post, feel free to address it but keep it civil please.
I've taken the liberty of copy and posting it for everyone so no one has to go trying to find it thus disrupting the flow of my post. Here it is
"The members of this forum have come together to share our knowledge and experiences of fish keeping. We want to answer your questions, offer advice and fill the galleries with pictures of the fish we have all grown to love.
We are a unique community of Fish Keepers who seriously take our hobby to extremes and the NEXT level. The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS. It's not easy for most people or other "regular" fish keepers to understand why we maintain this type of collection and spare no expense on this fascinating hobby."
Hopefully, through this site and discussion forums we can encourage the next generation of Monster Fish Keepers to have the same passion and love we have for the hobby and our Monster Fish .
As one of the founding members, I personally invite you to register and join us today. Currently you are viewing this site as our guest which only gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and photo galleries."
Now, the single most important part of that whole post to me personally is this.
"The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS."
The most important part of that individual section of the post that I have pulled out is "BIG TANKS" because without the big tank you can not have big fish. The only fish that can have big enough appetites to qualify for the site are BIG fish so big fish are mentioned twice basically. Now, since big tanks are the most important thing the size of the fish can be ignored as long as the tank is big enough. No one here would disagree, well except maybe
vincentwugwg
, that a 800 gallon with large fish can be called a monster fish tank. Now what if we had a 1,500 gallon planted freshwater tank with large numbers of tetra and similar fish? Would you say that it isn't a monster fish tank? I highly doubt many people would say that it is not a monster fish tank.If you have a large fish tank and large fish that can eat through a normal person's pay check with ease it qualifies as a monster fish tank without a single doubt.
Now lets go back to a previous persons post.
mattison187
said "If a guy with a 10 gallon tank puts his heart into proper fish keeping, while a guy with a 1000gal neglects the hell out of his.. I speak for alot of us around here, when i say that the true MFK out of those two would be the 10gal guy, due to the fact that he takes pride and actually cares about his fish and beeing a true fishkeeper." Now I can agree with the general feeling that you get from the post which should be somewhere along the line of "the guy with the 10 gallon is the true fish keeper, the other guy is an imposter."
What I can't agree with is that you called the 10 gallon keeper the true MFK. Lets put it the long way shall we? You believe that the 10 gallon fish keeper is the true fish keeper.
Ok, now lets look up the definition of monster shall we? Oh no, don't worry, I looked it up and got it for you
. Here it ishttps://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monster
Now if you look at definition 3B, you'll find that the definition of monster that we are looking for says " one unusually large for its kind".
Now, lets consider the 10 gallon. If you have a little knowledge of the aquarium world you will know that a 10 gallon is commonly called a "loss leader" because the places that sell them lose money on them but those 10 gallons get people in the hobby and into the store to spend money. Point is, a 10 gallon is one of the most common sizes you can find.
Now lets go back to the definition of "monster", it is "one unusually large for its king".
Who thinks that one of the most common sizes, a 10 gallon is unusually large for tank sizes? Go on, find someone, I'll wait...
Find anyone? I thought not.
Now I believe I've addressed everything I wanted to address so I'll just leave it here. Before I go I'd like to make it clear that I'm not attacking anyone, I just view things from a very technical stand point. I see most things in black and white, it is uncommon that I see gray areas. The definition of monster fish keeper is almost a dark black, little room for seeing it differently.
If anyone has a problem with my post, feel free to address it but keep it civil please.
I just realized I left out an important word.
"What I can't agree with is that you called the 10 gallon keeper the true MFK. Lets put it the long way shall we? You believe that the 10 gallon fish keeper is the true fish keeper."
I meant to say
"What I can't agree with is that you called the 10 gallon keeper the true MFK. Lets put it the long way shall we? You believe that the 10 gallon fish keeper is the true monster fish keeper."
1 word difference but I feel it's important enough to warrant me saying something about it.
"What I can't agree with is that you called the 10 gallon keeper the true MFK. Lets put it the long way shall we? You believe that the 10 gallon fish keeper is the true fish keeper."
I meant to say
"What I can't agree with is that you called the 10 gallon keeper the true MFK. Lets put it the long way shall we? You believe that the 10 gallon fish keeper is the true monster fish keeper."
1 word difference but I feel it's important enough to warrant me saying something about it.
I don't keep anything bigger than a festivum at the moment. I do still however feel very much part of mfk.
To me it's just a name and I don't feel anyone should feel inadequate to take part.
We are all fish keepers and we can all bring something to the forum without keeping pacu or red tailed catfish.
Before joining I was actually a little put of by the name, thought it would be a load of chest beaters, dropping mice and frogs in their huge predator tanks. Thankfully I was wrong and the forum has a place for all avenues of the hobby.
To me it's just a name and I don't feel anyone should feel inadequate to take part.
We are all fish keepers and we can all bring something to the forum without keeping pacu or red tailed catfish.
Before joining I was actually a little put of by the name, thought it would be a load of chest beaters, dropping mice and frogs in their huge predator tanks. Thankfully I was wrong and the forum has a place for all avenues of the hobby.