what makes a monster tank?

[kewpiefishypewpie]

I may be the odd one out, or perhaps I'm one of the few ones that read the little notification you get before you sign up.
I've taken the liberty of copy and posting it for everyone so no one has to go trying to find it thus disrupting the flow of my post. Here it is

"The members of this forum have come together to share our knowledge and experiences of fish keeping. We want to answer your questions, offer advice and fill the galleries with pictures of the fish we have all grown to love.

We are a unique community of Fish Keepers who seriously take our hobby to extremes and the NEXT level. The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS. It's not easy for most people or other "regular" fish keepers to understand why we maintain this type of collection and spare no expense on this fascinating hobby."

Hopefully, through this site and discussion forums we can encourage the next generation of Monster Fish Keepers to have the same passion and love we have for the hobby and our Monster Fish .

As one of the founding members, I personally invite you to register and join us today. Currently you are viewing this site as our guest which only gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and photo galleries."

Now, the single most important part of that whole post to me personally is this.

"The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS."

The most important part of that individual section of the post that I have pulled out is "BIG TANKS" because without the big tank you can not have big fish. The only fish that can have big enough appetites to qualify for the site are BIG fish so big fish are mentioned twice basically. Now, since big tanks are the most important thing the size of the fish can be ignored as long as the tank is big enough. No one here would disagree, well except maybe vincentwugwg , that a 800 gallon with large fish can be called a monster fish tank. Now what if we had a 1,500 gallon planted freshwater tank with large numbers of tetra and similar fish? Would you say that it isn't a monster fish tank? I highly doubt many people would say that it is not a monster fish tank.
If you have a large fish tank and large fish that can eat through a normal person's pay check with ease it qualifies as a monster fish tank without a single doubt.

Now lets go back to a previous persons post.

mattison187 said "If a guy with a 10 gallon tank puts his heart into proper fish keeping, while a guy with a 1000gal neglects the hell out of his.. I speak for alot of us around here, when i say that the true MFK out of those two would be the 10gal guy, due to the fact that he takes pride and actually cares about his fish and beeing a true fishkeeper."

Now I can agree with the general feeling that you get from the post which should be somewhere along the line of "the guy with the 10 gallon is the true fish keeper, the other guy is an imposter."
What I can't agree with is that you called the 10 gallon keeper the true MFK. Lets put it the long way shall we? You believe that the 10 gallon fish keeper is the true fish keeper.
Ok, now lets look up the definition of monster shall we? Oh no, don't worry, I looked it up and got it for you . Here it is

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monster

Now if you look at definition 3B, you'll find that the definition of monster that we are looking for says " one unusually large for its kind".
Now, lets consider the 10 gallon. If you have a little knowledge of the aquarium world you will know that a 10 gallon is commonly called a "loss leader" because the places that sell them lose money on them but those 10 gallons get people in the hobby and into the store to spend money. Point is, a 10 gallon is one of the most common sizes you can find.
Now lets go back to the definition of "monster", it is "one unusually large for its king".
Who thinks that one of the most common sizes, a 10 gallon is unusually large for tank sizes? Go on, find someone, I'll wait...
Find anyone? I thought not.

Now I believe I've addressed everything I wanted to address so I'll just leave it here. Before I go I'd like to make it clear that I'm not attacking anyone, I just view things from a very technical stand point. I see most things in black and white, it is uncommon that I see gray areas. The definition of monster fish keeper is almost a dark black, little room for seeing it differently.
If anyone has a problem with my post, feel free to address it but keep it civil please.

You may see things as black and white but that's not how the world actually works. It's full of nuance and subtlety. Especially regarding a hobby as subjective as this one.

 

[BichirKing]

thanks for the replies. as you can see by my post count i'm new here. while ive kept to most people I know, monster tanks ie... 180g and 240g these aren't as monster as the ones i've seen here. biggest fish have been a 20" royal clown knife and a couple big bichirs in my 180.
I was just curious if the long skinny tank that I want to do like a fast flowing river would qualify.

 

[mattison187]

I may be the odd one out, or perhaps I'm one of the few ones that read the little notification you get before you sign up.
I've taken the liberty of copy and posting it for everyone so no one has to go trying to find it thus disrupting the flow of my post. Here it is

"The members of this forum have come together to share our knowledge and experiences of fish keeping. We want to answer your questions, offer advice and fill the galleries with pictures of the fish we have all grown to love.

We are a unique community of Fish Keepers who seriously take our hobby to extremes and the NEXT level. The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS. It's not easy for most people or other "regular" fish keepers to understand why we maintain this type of collection and spare no expense on this fascinating hobby."

Hopefully, through this site and discussion forums we can encourage the next generation of Monster Fish Keepers to have the same passion and love we have for the hobby and our Monster Fish .

As one of the founding members, I personally invite you to register and join us today. Currently you are viewing this site as our guest which only gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and photo galleries."

Now, the single most important part of that whole post to me personally is this.

"The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS."

The most important part of that individual section of the post that I have pulled out is "BIG TANKS" because without the big tank you can not have big fish. The only fish that can have big enough appetites to qualify for the site are BIG fish so big fish are mentioned twice basically. Now, since big tanks are the most important thing the size of the fish can be ignored as long as the tank is big enough. No one here would disagree, well except maybe vincentwugwg , that a 800 gallon with large fish can be called a monster fish tank. Now what if we had a 1,500 gallon planted freshwater tank with large numbers of tetra and similar fish? Would you say that it isn't a monster fish tank? I highly doubt many people would say that it is not a monster fish tank.
If you have a large fish tank and large fish that can eat through a normal person's pay check with ease it qualifies as a monster fish tank without a single doubt.

Now lets go back to a previous persons post.

mattison187 said "If a guy with a 10 gallon tank puts his heart into proper fish keeping, while a guy with a 1000gal neglects the hell out of his.. I speak for alot of us around here, when i say that the true MFK out of those two would be the 10gal guy, due to the fact that he takes pride and actually cares about his fish and beeing a true fishkeeper."

Now I can agree with the general feeling that you get from the post which should be somewhere along the line of "the guy with the 10 gallon is the true fish keeper, the other guy is an imposter."
What I can't agree with is that you called the 10 gallon keeper the true MFK. Lets put it the long way shall we? You believe that the 10 gallon fish keeper is the true fish keeper.
Ok, now lets look up the definition of monster shall we? Oh no, don't worry, I looked it up and got it for you . Here it is

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monster

Now if you look at definition 3B, you'll find that the definition of monster that we are looking for says " one unusually large for its kind".
Now, lets consider the 10 gallon. If you have a little knowledge of the aquarium world you will know that a 10 gallon is commonly called a "loss leader" because the places that sell them lose money on them but those 10 gallons get people in the hobby and into the store to spend money. Point is, a 10 gallon is one of the most common sizes you can find.
Now lets go back to the definition of "monster", it is "one unusually large for its king".
Who thinks that one of the most common sizes, a 10 gallon is unusually large for tank sizes? Go on, find someone, I'll wait...
Find anyone? I thought not.

Now I believe I've addressed everything I wanted to address so I'll just leave it here. Before I go I'd like to make it clear that I'm not attacking anyone, I just view things from a very technical stand point. I see most things in black and white, it is uncommon that I see gray areas. The definition of monster fish keeper is almost a dark black, little room for seeing it differently.
If anyone has a problem with my post, feel free to address it but keep it civil please.

You say that you look at everything in a "technical" mannor, yet you quote something, and even focus in farther on a certain statement. That word for word also says "rare and exotic fish of all sizes"..

"The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS"

^that quote. Figured since you went as far as to look up definitions, and typed a novel, i could do that for ya.

i wasnt going to even touch on the 10 gallon rant of yours.. But why the hell not right?

Ok, ok.. To make a monster out of a 10 gallon is stretching it, but its out there IMO. How about these insane priced shrimp that ppl keep? At 100$ a pop for some varients, and all the equipment,lighting and attention to params It takes to keep the water prestine enough for fragile micro crabs and plants healthy doesnt make them a monster aquarist?..

I mean it does in my book. But who am i?

Your novel defining what an mfk member is, and quoting me after your month as a member should clearly outweigh what the majority of us interpret it as.

Just to clarify, im not fighting, i dont jump aboard the argue boat. Just had to reply since you quoted me

 

[fishhead0103666]

That's fine mattison, I knew some people wouldn't agree with what I said. I knew that while posting it but I did it anyway because something made me feel as though I had to. To me, we shouldn't include the monster part when referring to ourselves as fish keepers. Why limit ourselves to the few that have the capacity to hold true monsters? This site may have been founded on big fish but it has always had the capacity to show love for people with any size tank. The name of the site doesn't define us. It has brought us together for our love of fish.

And with that, I bid this thread farewell.

 

[J. H.]

I may be the odd one out, or perhaps I'm one of the few ones that read the little notification you get before you sign up.
I've taken the liberty of copy and posting it for everyone so no one has to go trying to find it thus disrupting the flow of my post. Here it is

"The members of this forum have come together to share our knowledge and experiences of fish keeping. We want to answer your questions, offer advice and fill the galleries with pictures of the fish we have all grown to love.

We are a unique community of Fish Keepers who seriously take our hobby to extremes and the NEXT level. The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS. It's not easy for most people or other "regular" fish keepers to understand why we maintain this type of collection and spare no expense on this fascinating hobby."

Hopefully, through this site and discussion forums we can encourage the next generation of Monster Fish Keepers to have the same passion and love we have for the hobby and our Monster Fish .

As one of the founding members, I personally invite you to register and join us today. Currently you are viewing this site as our guest which only gives you limited access to view most discussions, articles and photo galleries."

Now, the single most important part of that whole post to me personally is this.

"The majority of our fish collections include RARE & EXOTIC Species of all sizes, BIG FISH with BIG APPETITES and BIG TANKS."

The most important part of that individual section of the post that I have pulled out is "BIG TANKS" because without the big tank you can not have big fish. The only fish that can have big enough appetites to qualify for the site are BIG fish so big fish are mentioned twice basically. Now, since big tanks are the most important thing the size of the fish can be ignored as long as the tank is big enough. No one here would disagree, well except maybe vincentwugwg , that a 800 gallon with large fish can be called a monster fish tank. Now what if we had a 1,500 gallon planted freshwater tank with large numbers of tetra and similar fish? Would you say that it isn't a monster fish tank? I highly doubt many people would say that it is not a monster fish tank.
If you have a large fish tank and large fish that can eat through a normal person's pay check with ease it qualifies as a monster fish tank without a single doubt.

Now lets go back to a previous persons post.

mattison187 said "If a guy with a 10 gallon tank puts his heart into proper fish keeping, while a guy with a 1000gal neglects the hell out of his.. I speak for alot of us around here, when i say that the true MFK out of those two would be the 10gal guy, due to the fact that he takes pride and actually cares about his fish and beeing a true fishkeeper."

Now I can agree with the general feeling that you get from the post which should be somewhere along the line of "the guy with the 10 gallon is the true fish keeper, the other guy is an imposter."
What I can't agree with is that you called the 10 gallon keeper the true MFK. Lets put it the long way shall we? You believe that the 10 gallon fish keeper is the true fish keeper.
Ok, now lets look up the definition of monster shall we? Oh no, don't worry, I looked it up and got it for you . Here it is

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monster

Now if you look at definition 3B, you'll find that the definition of monster that we are looking for says " one unusually large for its kind".
Now, lets consider the 10 gallon. If you have a little knowledge of the aquarium world you will know that a 10 gallon is commonly called a "loss leader" because the places that sell them lose money on them but those 10 gallons get people in the hobby and into the store to spend money. Point is, a 10 gallon is one of the most common sizes you can find.
Now lets go back to the definition of "monster", it is "one unusually large for its king".
Who thinks that one of the most common sizes, a 10 gallon is unusually large for tank sizes? Go on, find someone, I'll wait...
Find anyone? I thought not.

Now I believe I've addressed everything I wanted to address so I'll just leave it here. Before I go I'd like to make it clear that I'm not attacking anyone, I just view things from a very technical stand point. I see most things in black and white, it is uncommon that I see gray areas. The definition of monster fish keeper is almost a dark black, little room for seeing it differently.
If anyone has a problem with my post, feel free to address it but keep it civil please.

Someone doesn't know about nano fishkeeping. Next to m .038, my 10g is a monster

 

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[fishhead0103666]

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