What other hobby?

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Motorsports, bikes in particular, guitar, training attack dogs and traditional Chinese martial arts.
 
essence said:
Motorsports, bikes in particular, guitar, training attack dogs and traditional Chinese martial arts.

Wow interesting... i guess i can say i have more dormant hobbies than yours.

How do you train attack dogs? Do you use the pavlovian method??
 
Well, mainly, I'm into weights, luv mountain biking(though I've stopped due to a back injury while skating in my teen days) a little reading here and there, and you know I'm stuck on the net every other opportunity I get, and beer, ooohhhhhh luvly luvly beeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr :grinno:






( Did I mention I luv monster fish?? :lipsseale )
 
redtailfool said:
Wow interesting... i guess i can say i have more dormant hobbies than yours.

How do you train attack dogs? Do you use the pavlovian method??

Hey, I'm not sure of the name of the method. I had over 100 lessons with an ex Australian Air Force dog handler together with my rottie. He basically taught me how to start building the dog's confidence and teaching it to go in for a bite.

Basically just stimulating the drive of the dog stuff plus word/action association and of course plenty of praises.

You into Schutzund(sp)?
 
icthyophile said:
Mountain biking, snowboarding, riding my motorcycle, classic cars, beer and wine tasting, sushi, reading science fiction and travel essays.


Another Wine enthusiast haha.. although im a bit of a noob.. probably because of my age. (18) anyways.

I have lost interest in almost everything I once considered a hobby. I now spend my time hallucinating about epic fantasies. Whether it be about Hitlers Idealism of a supreme civilization, or about a civil revolt against government. This modern age, this world we live in is so dull, so drab. Nothing exciting happens. Nothing on an EPIC scale happens or WILL happen anytime soon. I have to play VIDEO games to get a, very small i might add, taste of something exciting, something OUT of this world... And even then, when I turn the computer off im left with a feeling of emptiness... sadness.... This modern life we live in is boring and predictable. It seems the only enjoyment I actually GET out of living is chancing my life on my motorcycle and/or thinking that someday, someday I will have supreme power over all... That want, that excitment, that NEED for power is what drives me to accomplish things. Unfortunatly the power required to fuel this drive is not capable of being harvested in this, my, life time.

My Father told me this once- Happiness is the key to fullfillment.

I am inclined to disagree. I feel/believe fulfillment is the key to happiness.. and unless you fulfill all that you require, you can not possibly be happy.

whats the problem? The space I require to be fulfilled is to large. It cannot possibly be filled! Therefore I am STUCK. I am stuck in a world where happiness is unreachable... My constant need for MORE and BETTER will keep me motivated but also, at the same time, keep me from being complete/saticfied.

I am forever doomed to be a "badguy" in the view of modern society... (My true self that is. Praise the lord, for my careers sake, I can be who ever I need to be in any situation.). It has its Ups and Downs. A downside is I get banned from potential sites where i can flaunt my greatness, such as Pfish and or Water Wolves. An Upside is that I can relate to inteligent (outside the box thinkers) people such as P54....You may ask where im going with this.. I really cant tell you.. Im just bored (like ALWAYS) and feel as though I should express my self. anways-


On a side note, I want to take up Jetsking.. maybe start stunting those and getting attention.

What is the point of life? Why do religious people fear death? Why? WHY? WHY?

ahh... im going insane.
 
essence said:
Hey, I'm not sure of the name of the method. I had over 100 lessons with an ex Australian Air Force dog handler together with my rottie. He basically taught me how to start building the dog's confidence and teaching it to go in for a bite.

Basically just stimulating the drive of the dog stuff plus word/action association and of course plenty of praises.

You into Schutzund(sp)?

Dont really have dogs at the moment but i would love to. My father used to teach dogs as his pastime when i (and he) was younger and it was interesting to watch.
Ive never seen how they train attack dogs though. The pavlovian method was just a joke.. It was a famous experiment done by Pavlov that proves that animals ,act to a same response through conditioning. Ahh i cant explain it well... its too long but check this out

PAVLOV IN THE HIZZOUSE
 
redtailfool said:
LOL it does i believe you. What race do you play?


Interesting hobbies guys. I honestly have dabbled into 80 % of the hobbies
you mentioned one time or another( cept for the x games stuff) . Buddah.. 15K in stamps huh? where do you keep it? :p


Li and JayR. - thinking about trying out gas R/C for the summer. How much am i looking to spend for a decent 4wd gas powered rc??
In my safe. I have finally assembled the whole 1893 Colombian series! 3,900.00 for one stamp to finish it! YEAH!!! :P Scott#'s 230-245...DONE.
 
PeacockBass said:
I have lost interest in almost everything I once considered a hobby. I now spend my time hallucinating about epic fantasies. .
totally can relate to that. Disagree with your happiness equation, though
 
redtailfool said:
Dont really have dogs at the moment but i would love to. My father used to teach dogs as his pastime when i (and he) was younger and it was interesting to watch.
Ive never seen how they train attack dogs though. The pavlovian method was just a joke.. It was a famous experiment done by Pavlov that proves that animals ,act to a same response through conditioning. Ahh i cant explain it well... its too long but check this out

PAVLOV IN THE HIZZOUSE

Ah I see...

Disclaimer: Do not try the method I will desribe unless you are absolutely certain you are competent as a dog handler. I will not be responsible for any handler or helper being mauled/bitten as a result.

Well basically to train an attack dog you have to make sure the dog is properly disciplined first, i.e., the obey your every command, sit, down, heel, stay. Every time the command is given the dog snaps to the command...that is the expected level.

While all that basic obedience is happening, you must make sure to play with him, tug of war is best, let him chase a tennis ball and all those kind of chasing stuff to stimulate his prey drive.

When the time is nearer, you start teaching him to gnaw at a hand guard and associate it with the word of your choice, kill, attack...blah blah...always make sure you have a competent helper who understands dogs as well.

Further, you could make a dog not attack oriented but still scare ppl...by associating the word kill with bark...it will give the impression of an aggressive dog but the dog won't actually bite.

All training is done via stimulating of the dog's drive, his prey drive and at a later stage, his fight drive. All training is based on building the dog's confidence. If you hit the dog, the dog will never have the confidence to be an attack dog.

Also note, as depriving the dog of the opportunity to bite the hand guard is a method to provoke a more aggressive and intensive bite on contact, you must understand the dog extremely well. Overdoing this could result in reversed aggression resulting in the handler being bitten.

Of course, I'm skimming the surface here, but it's not the place to go into details, but that's the jist of it.

P.S. Never ever make the dog revert to defensive drive, i.e. beating to get a bite or cornering a cowering dog. This will result in unpredictable bites and the dog will not be responsive to commands should it be forced to fight or flee.

It is of utmost importance to make sure the dog retains his integrity and confidence at all times to prevent a disaster and a possible fatal situation.
 
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