what turtle/frog/salamander would get along with an oscar?

[oscar fish lover2000]

i have a red tiger oscar in a 55 gallon tank, i couldn't find any fish that would get along with him in that size tank apart from a sucking loach,
please can i have some help, i'd like an amhibian preferrably, but a turtle will do. The reason i think that they will fit together is that they can go on land
and the oscar can't (i'll get a dock) thanks for your help, in advance

 

[cmbtengr1371]

in my experience the oscar will eat any amphibian that would be put in there with it and turtles dont do well in a 55gal they require alot of wc and filter cleaning makes the bioload rediculous.

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[snakefin]

Simplistic assumptions are not designed for use in amphibian and reptile husbandry. No amphibians period. They are cold water creatures, and very very cold creatures. For that matter, most anurans are more terrestrial than they are aquatic. Turtles are a possibility with a tank at least twice this size.

 

[Sprucegruve]

Simplistic assumptions are not designed for use in amphibian and reptile husbandry. No amphibians period. They are cold water creatures, and very very cold creatures. For that matter, most anurans are more terrestrial than they are aquatic. Turtles are a possibility with a tank at least twice this size.

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[oscar fish lover2000]

thanks for your help, i'm not getting an amphibian, possibly a turtle if i get a bigger tank. but surely not all amphibians are cold water creatures, what about frogs that live in the tropical forests like the amazon and northern
australia?

 

[Fat Homer]

That just means the climate they come from is warm, has nothing to do with the fact they are cold blooded animals...

 

[snakefin]

Fat Homer, you're wrong. It doesn't bother anyone with sufficient temperature controlling devices whether an animal is cold or warm blooded.

Even within the amazon or Australia, there are Edens of cooler temperatures. Nonetheless, for my post, I was referring to newts and salamanders, since frogs are already ruled out by their more terrestrial lifestyle.

You can go with non-fish eating turtles, snakeguy has made a brilliant article about your options in this sub-forum. It is stickied.

 

[Vicious_Fish]

I think you should wait to upgrade before you drop a turtle in there. 55's are just horrible tanks to begin with being extremely narrow. There's not a great deal of turning room in them for a large fish, let alone a turtle. Plus, if your turtles decides it wants to eat your oscar one day, there's not much room for it to get away.

 

[Kcameron]

yea get a bigger tank first; a 90 or more for the oscar and def a 120 or more if you wanna add something else

 

[Brewster320]

I keep a juvenile common musk turtle, aka a stinkpot, with my central Americans including an Oscar. They are all juveniles right now so I'm not sure how there relations will work as they mature but for the most part the turtle and the fishes ignore each other unless the Oscar wants to push someone around but that's not too often. The firemouth is relentless with the turtle however but usually the turtle just treats him like an nuisance more than a threat and just goes about his business while the cichlid hopelessly attacks his shell lol.

These turtles are mainly scavengers and are bottom walkers more than swimmers. People will tell you that you shouldn't have them in deep tanks because they'll drown but as long as you give them drift wood, plants, or rocks they can climb to the surface and sit on they'll be find. I've seen them walking along the bottom of a lake that's around 7feet at that point so an aquarium shouldn't be a big deal. They aren't avid baskers like sliders and stuff so they don't "need" UV or even a basking spot but it's best to provide one anyways just incase. They don't get large either. The max size for a male is around 6inches, and that's a huge stinkpot, you could keep a single adult in a 20 gallon aquarium without issues though the more room the better.There are a couple different kinds of musk turtles though including a giant one but I couldn't tell you how they are with fish, the stinkpots though aren't good fish hunters and I've seen people keep them with community fish like guppies and cories.


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