What water conditioner do you use? Prime?

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that only treat Chlorine and not Chloramine?
Yeah, thats if I decide to use them. Other than that I use NOTHING to treat Chlorine or Chloramine

Do you just aerate for 24 hours? On well water?
Faucet city water. One tank I only have sponge filters, and my other tanks I have hanging filters. I dont ever stop my filters otherwise they get backed up.
 
Tetra Brand Aquasafe... I'm cheap, I know... lol


by volume, this is actually costing you more than if you were just to buy a medium size bottle of prime.
one capful is 20? i think gallons for tetra or 50 gallons for a capful of prime..Granted this is different depending on your own personal water system.
I generally use one capful of prime for 50+ gallons, watever im changing in my 106. And on top offs i add nothing as i feel the prime is overdosed as is.
Soon i will be moving to my own private well and never have to think about it again. At least im hoping so
 
I posted the following last year, some of you may find it an interesting read.

http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?309623-Cost-Effective-Water-Conditioners

Cost wise, for my local water conditions, Seachem Safe came out the winner.



I use NO conditioners. What for? Before I give my fishes water conditioners, I'd have to set myself up with some pure Oxygen for the house.

Hey whatever anyone does is fine, Heck, some people feed their dogs Filet Mignon. But I know a lot of reputable Vendors and MFKers that dont use any extra or special chems.


If you have to ask "what for?", then clearly you do not understand the toxic effects of both chlorine and/or chloramine on aquatic organisms. At lethal levels both will kill fish by internal hypoxia via gill damage. Even sublethal levels can cause moderate gill hyperplasia.

In simple terms, these chemicals burn sensitive gill filaments, causing the fish to slowly suffocate.

The acute toxicity of both chlorine and chloramine to aquatic organisms is species specific and is dependant on the chemical species and levels, life stage of the fish, exposure duration, pH and temperature.

Certainly some people can get away without using any form of water conditioner, usually due to the fact that the disinfectant residuals coming out of their tap are non existent.

From what I've seen & read over the years, the vast majority of fish keepers have no idea what those residuals may or may not be, and the entire "water conditioning" process becomes a by guess or by golly approach. They could be using 1/2 as much Prime etc as they should be, or twice as much as required, to treat their local tap water. The instructions on water conditioner containers are simply guidelines, based on various residual rates.

Obviously someone with 4 mg/l chlorine residuals at their tap is going to have to treat their water changes differently than someone with .5 mg/l (or less), just as those who have chloramine residuals to deal with, and who may perform very large water changes. At higher pH values the resulting spike of free ammonia once the chlorine/ammonia bond has been broken in chloramine can also have a very negative effect on the health of a fish, even in small doses over an extended period of time. Just as disinfectants, free ammonia is also highly toxic to fish.


All of the above has been very well documented for decades, with numerous species of fish at various life stages.
 
Yeah, thats if I decide to use them. Other than that I use NOTHING to treat Chlorine or Chloramine


Faucet city water. One tank I only have sponge filters, and my other tanks I have hanging filters. I dont ever stop my filters otherwise they get backed up.

I think you must have somehow ended up on the wrong site... this is monsterfishKEEPERS not monsterfishABUSERS...


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Aquasafe works best for me and my water... prime doesn't get the job done with my well water.. I need something that will take on heavy metals better.. and after trying a few brands stuck with aquasafe.
 
There is somewhat of a misconception in this hobby with regards to water conditioners neutralizing heavy metals. This is typically nothing more than a by-product of most conditioners, and overall usually has a minor effect in so much as they will typically only detoxify heavy metals that are found in tap water at "typical" concentration levels. (ppb) At those levels there is no need to be concerned from the get go, most natural bodies of water will contain the same trace amounts. So while these products will precipitate typical heavy metals, such as lead, zinc, mercury, copper etc, they will not remove or detoxify heavy metals at elevated levels, make no mistake about that.
 
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