Yup...sellin them for $15 a pop on MM....hmmm. I pm'ed the 'dude' on AP...hopefully he still has some, since he just makes yaz pay shiping. I wanna get a large group of them and grow them out quick in the pond.......or at least till they are large enough for the tank. Magans pop might not be too happy if i let them get big enough to eat his goldfish. I see it as weeding out the weak fish...haha...then he can get some real koi in there!