What's the best food for FH?

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I fed my FH tilapia, market shrimp, and wild caught salmon/steelhead exclusively for 6 months or so because he just started refusing pellets.

A few weeks ago he started eating pellets (Omega 1 and Grand Sumo Red) again and, believe it or not, there was a noticeable improvement in color over the fresh food.

Now I'm trying to get him to take NLS Thera A exclusively for convenience and supposedly better health. He's winning the battle so far. We're going on 5 days without him eating.
 
Interesting how everyone has different methods.

Is colour bits any good? tetra colour?

I use to feed all my fish that but not the flower horns.
 
CrazyCichlids;4866090; said:
I get AMAZING results from "Hikari Bio-Gold +" with all my flowerhorns!!!.

X2...all of my cichlids and FH's love it
 
I have 3 flowerhorns... a small blue titanium, a faded orange, and a zz kamfa (?)- I feed them all nothing but NLS Cichlasoma formula.

I also feed them bloodworms, and krill on occasion.

Not the best pic, but this guy looks amazing!

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The most important thing is to give them a variety of different pellets and foods because they get different nutrients from different foods. Anybody who tells you different is tripping NLS is a good staple and i have found Grand Sumo Red to be a good food also feed a fish a high protein diet for a bigger head.
 
I feed my flowerhorns NLS exclusively, as I have every other fish that I have raised over the past decade. I know, big surprise ....
If there's a nutrient missing in NLS that can be found in something else please let me know, I don't wanna be tripping. :D

Also, a high protein diet will not only NOT create larger heads (think genetics), high protein diets for anything other than fry/juveniles can be detrimental to the overall health of your FH. For the most part the genetic make up of flowerhorns is derived from omnivores, not carnivores, and they can only assimilate so much protein, and utilize only so much fat. Over time the excess protein can potentially place an extra strain on the liver, as those excess amino acids have to be deaminated by the liver before they can be excreted. This process also requires energy, which in turn can actually have a negative effect on growth. If nothing else, those excreted amino acids add major pollution to your tank. Excess fat also gets stored in & around the liver, which over time can result in premature death of a FH.

Sudden death syndrome anyone?

As an example, the largest freshwater carnivores in North America, Acipenser transmontanus (White Sturgeon), are raised commercially (such as the fish shown below) exclusively on pellet food that typically consists of 40-45% crude protein, and exceed both size & weight of the vast majority of tropical fish kept in captivity. The one shown being released in the pic below is a mere baby.


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Adult females can require 10 yrs just to reach sexual maturity, and only then can one begin to harvest caviar. With caviar at approx $1,000 a pound, these commercial farms aren't fooling around when it comes to pumping them up, and every sturgeon farm in the US feeds pellets with protein levels as listed above. (40-45%)

45-55% protein for adult, or even semi adult FH is ludicrous, yet at I see at least one of the *specialty* FH food manufacturers that market a 55% protein formula, as though this will somehow boost the growth of a fishes nuchal hump. Unreal .......


Most adult FH will do very well on a diet in the range of 30-35% protein, and 4-6% crude fat.


As far as HIGH protein, as I have stated time & time again over the years, the only percent of protein that is important, is the amount of protein that the fish can assimilate. Protein percentages found on a label are nothing more than a reading for total nitrogen content taken by someone wearing a white coat in a laboratory, and do not reflect the overall digestibility of that protein.

In the end the only protein that truly matters is the amount of total digestible protein, as in the amount of protein that can be utilized by your fish.



HTH
 
Off topic but about that sturgeon, it is not a white sturgeon. I go fishing for sturgeon(white sturgeon and green - green isn't legal to keep and is listed as endangered/protected species) and I'm best at fishing than any fish keeping I can do or know about. I specialize in fishing more than fish keeping myself.
Anyways, that fish is a lake sturgeon. At that size for a lake sturgeon, they are considered as an young adult and is mature enough to breed. Same goes for white sturgeon, but at that size they are considered younger than a lake sturgeon(I'm guessing that fish on that pic is around 60-65"). They can live for more than 100 years old and grow larger than 15ft. Also considered as the worlds biggest freshwater fish with a world record catch at 20ft weighing more than 1800lbs as recorded by the IGFA(International Game Fish Association). Lots more I can talk about them but this isn't the right topic for them. Once again sorry for the off topic...hehe. :D
 
Well I haven't seen or caught a sturgeon since the 1960's, so I probably wouldn't be the one to ask about the difference in the various species. Having said that, those photos were from a release back in 2007 in the Santa Ana River Lakes in CA, and the sturgeon came from a caviar hatchery, and were referred to in numerous articles as White Sturgeon. http://www.jesseshunting.com/site/jimmatthews.html



Either way, they were all hatchery fish, raised on pellets, with crude protein levels below what some people are currently feeding their 8-10" flowerhorns. That was the point that I was attempting to make. ;)
 
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