Which cichlids makes for a FH?

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old school flowerhorns had some festae i believe
 
this might shed some light on whatever is thought on linages of the flowerhorns we know today. however this all started many, many years ago. i do not believe this chart to be fully accurate, but its defiantly a start for anyone interested. i personally don't think the texas cichlid was a founder. i do feel it was added farther down the tree, aswell as the festae. this chart surfaced recently.

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I believe some FH has some convict blood too but thats just minority of the species that make up Flowerhorn's genetics. Who knows how many species bred with Flowerhorn? I believe they have some servrum blood (from blood parrot's genetics). but there are lots of species that might throw in the mix for some traits.

Im curious what species was use to created Silky FH?
 
All this talk about the original "recipe" for the Flowerhorn is purely conjecture. The only people who know for sure are the original Malaysian breeders and they aren't talking. The only two species that are universally agreed upon are the Trimac and the Citrinellus. Other than that who knows?? There were other species introduced later such as the Parrot. This is where things go sideways. The Parrot being a hybrid of it's own brings a whole new set of mixed genes to the party. So how do you keep track after that?? It is widely accepted that the Synspillum was brought in to the mix around the Kamalau stage. The Festae was rumoured to be the supplier of the Red colour associated with the Flowerhorn. and then there is the thought that the Texas brought the pearls. Who knows anymore?

It is what it is what it is!!

With the success of the Flowerhorn everyone is trying something new to one up the breed before it. Look at the Kirin Parrot as a prime example of this. Now there is the new "ThaiSilk". What did they add to get that kinda look. WOW

By no means is any of this written in stone. Just what I have gleamed from my own research and conclusions. Just my 2 cents, if you will.
 
Yeah Flowerhorn/Parrot strains are full of mysteries, no one knows what is the excatly species they used. And not all FH strains have same species that was used in the crossbreeding. Oh by way what is Rose Queen?
 
synspilum, parrot i think makes a rose queen
 
Mike fail;2613824; said:
synspilum, parrot i think makes a rose queen
Thank you, so rose queen is synspilum x parrot hybrid? Now anyone know what species used in the creation of ThaiSilk FH?
 
thanks for all the answers!

dominicolas;2609278; said:
Flowerhorns aren't jsut hybrids, they are a very certain, somewhat secret mixture that has made a unique style of fish.

I don't mean to be rude, but judging by your tone, I would suggest you do alot of research and reading before you jump into anything.


No offence taken, but my "tone" is just a way of putting sentences together - I'm really intressted in this and have read lots and lots about it. My main concern though, at the moment, is to find species which I like and are possible to breed - something which I have no experience of.

I used to wonder if Oscars could be crossbred, but everyone told me that Astronotus could only breed with Astronotus. As for the cichlids you've all named and thats in the chart (thank you FishFreak!) they are from both the Cichlasoma and Amphilophus genus. Are all these possible to cross?
My lfs told me that their vieja zonata and festae would not be successful, even though they started to pair of and the vieja was already digging pits.

I know that with limited resources and only two tanks It won't be able to produce a "pure blood" FH, but at least a successful spawn?

After looking at what I guess will be possible, my main interest lies atm with Amphilophus lyonsi and Cichlasoma pearsei..?
 
your welcome for the help. :)

you will be surprised how much species can outcross with other genus. i believe all of what you listed can cross out. i personally would try the vieja X festae.

keep in mind that ALOT of people will say crosses cann't be made, but the fact is that u really don't know anymore unless you try.

i can agree with the oscars statement. i've never heard of anything outcrossing with them.
 
i have a new pair. salvini x texas. tex male, sal female. i will let you know if it works. i hope so because i think a texas body and pearls with salvini coloring would be nice
 
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