which pair would you rather have???????

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well after one day on CL i have half my fish sold already just waiting for pickup. Right now im set on get a batch of lyonsi to get a pair but ive been researching, looking at photos, and videos of the trimac. istlanum and grammodes to see if i wanna go with a different pair
 
So in my other thread i talked about how i was going for the ultimate cichlid tank with festeas, grammodes, trimac, lyonsi, cuban, and istlanum. But after thinking about it i may get more pleasure out of a pair tank. Which would you rather have as a pair and why. I have reasons for each fish why i would keep each but i may only got with one

Festeas- pros- nothing beats a festea pair with the colors
cons- festeas are now flooding the hobby and i think are losing their rarity.

Cubans-pros- never see them where i live, and they just look cool
cons-females not as good lokking as males

lyonsi-pros-rare fish and i would put money on it that im the only one besides my friend who has one in Albany NY. May be able to squeeze a grammodes in there with them
cons- cant find any

istlanum-pros- new fish to me
cons- got none

grammodes-pros- ITS THE MINI DOVII!!! Great colors lots of attitude, and makes a good wet pet when larger.
cons- again i got nothing

Trimac-pros-very good wet pet. Great colors and lots of spunk
cons- not enough experience with them to know any

I will keep my single grammodes in his own tank no matter what...

i think a community of all males is more appealing but thats just me, no interest to breed. if i were to choose a pair for color, size and rarity which is what it seems you want, i would go for an black nasty. fyi most of the fish you indicate you can't find any are available via rapps, cichlids of the americans, american cichlids, cichlid connection.
 
ive never seen an adult grammodes which is why i wont sell mine as he is only 3 inches and follows me every where. I agrees with the festeas. I bought mine when a craze started and im over it

Well I would agree that there are alot of festaes floating around right now but i know for sure not everyone will be successful with pairing and spawning them. that is the biggest challenge with them along with the patients of growing them out. anyone can buy a bunch of festaes but not everyone has the patients to grow them out, pair them off and spawn them. its one challenge after another with festaes. I mean look at yourself.. youre already tired of growing them out and are looking to sell them off. i bet after you do sell them 90% wont make it to adult hood just like the majority of other hobbiest who get tired of it and sell them off, theyre lil guys most likely wont survive either. proof.. look around, how many adults do you see? now how many pairs that are bonded out there, then how many breeding pairs? the numbers get less and less. I bet this time next year the hobby will be craving festae again;)

Now to your question, ive owned all that you asked and i would say that you will be happy with Lyonsi or Trimac, but since you dont want festae i would choose Red Istlanum. here is an old video of my wild pair. please disreguard the background noise lol

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