Which "Texas"? - ID please

[duanes]

Here's the same male I posted above, just under different light.
And I am in totally agreement with Mo on this.
Carpintus are not from Texas, and calling it a Texas whether green or blue only serves to enable the interbreeding of the 2 which, causes even more confusion.
And Joao, no problem looking them up, they are/were both my fish.

 

[hybridcichlids]

Nice texas.....I use to breed them u maybe get 1 or 2 like that out of the cull.....heres a old 1 I had 4 years ago urs look better I like the darkness but look at mines pearled up ..lol

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[Azedenkae]

Here's the same male I posted above, just under different light.
And I am in totally agreement with Mo on this.
Carpintus are not from Texas, and calling it a Texas whether green or blue only serves to enable the interbreeding of the 2 which, causes even more confusion.
And Joao, no problem looking them up, they are/were both my fish.

I disagree, any interbreeding is simply due to people's ignorance, in which case even if they are labeled vastly differently they'd probably still get interbred anyways. After Herichthys carpintis and Herichthys cyanoguttatum? Ignorant people will just go 'yeah they're prolly the same thing just different whatever the hell names so let's breed them!'

There are many reasons why a fish has a specific name, and one of those reason is due to likeness to another species. Green Texas refers to their likeness to a Texas, except they're green. Hence Green Texas. Similarly, Amphilophus sagittae looks like Amphilophus labiatum, 'cept they're basically black, hence they're called Black Devils. Similarly for Pink Firemouths, which look similar to a Firemouth, or a Poor Man's Tropheus (coz they look like Tropheus), and so on.

The name given is the name given, and if it takes off then it takes off. And so Poor Man's Tropheus refers to Neetroplus nematopus, Pink Firemouth refers to Amphilophus longimanus, Black Devil refers to Amphilophus sagittae and Green Texas refers to Herichthys carpintis.

Plain and simple.

 

[Aquamojo]

Herichthys carpintis, not Herichthys carpinte - in case you want to use the current correct version.

Green Texas is and has been for a very long time the common name for a Herichthys carpintis. Just because some people mistake names or can't care less doesn't mean it's wrong.

Actually the common name for the "carpintis" is "Pearscale Cichlid".

 

[Aquamojo]

I disagree, any interbreeding is simply due to people's ignorance, in which case even if they are labeled vastly differently they'd probably still get interbred anyways. After Herichthys carpintis and Herichthys cyanoguttatum? Ignorant people will just go 'yeah they're prolly the same thing just different whatever the hell names so let's breed them!'

There are many reasons why a fish has a specific name, and one of those reason is due to likeness to another species. Green Texas refers to their likeness to a Texas, except they're green. Hence Green Texas. Similarly, Amphilophus sagittae looks like Amphilophus labiatum, 'cept they're basically black, hence they're called Black Devils. Similarly for Pink Firemouths, which look similar to a Firemouth, or a Poor Man's Tropheus (coz they look like Tropheus), and so on.

The name given is the name given, and if it takes off then it takes off. And so Poor Man's Tropheus refers to Neetroplus nematopus, Pink Firemouth refers to Amphilophus longimanus, Black Devil refers to Amphilophus sagittae and Green Texas refers to Herichthys carpintis.

Plain and simple.

Common names, regardless if they "take off" just confuses the issue. I do agree that people's ignorance "prolly" plays a major part in prolonging the confusion. That said....was just making a point. It's all good. Both fish are nice...blue, green or shades of yellow.

 

[Azedenkae]

Actually the common name for a Herichthys carpintis is 'Green Texas'. The common name is whatever name for the species that is common and therefore... Green Texas.

Between me and most people I talk to, it's not an issue. When it is, it gets clarified, people go 'ahhh so a Green Texas is a Herichthys carpintis, okay cool' and issue resolved.

 

[Aquamojo]

Actually the common name for a Herichthys carpintis is 'Green Texas'. The common name is whatever name for the species that is common and therefore... Green Texas.

Between me and most people I talk to, it's not an issue. When it is, it gets clarified, people go 'ahhh so a Green Texas is a Herichthys carpintis, okay cool' and issue resolved.

Nope. Pearlscale Cichlid has been around long before tha latter.

 

[darth pike]

Wow, I forget there are people that have been in the hobby as long, or longer, than me on here sometimes.

I haven't seen one listed as a Pearl Scale in decades Mo ... brought a laugh seeing it again. Thanks! That's what we used to list them at when I worked in a LFS back in the early 90's.

Never seen them listed as a 'green texas' though ... blue texas sure, never as green. Of course, common names are different all over the place, hell sometimes even in the same city. I've seen a single tetra species listed under 3 different 'common names' all within the same town.

Not to mention a common name can be applied to an entire genus ... I've seen Media Luna labridens listed as 'yellow texas' and deppi as 'turquoise texas' ...

After screaming my voice hoarse at people calling Tapajos geo's 'redheads' instead of the common name of 'orangehead', I've given up trying to shout into the wind as it were.

 

[Azedenkae]

Nope. Pearlscale Cichlid has been around long before tha latter.

It's called a common name, not an ancient name... common as in 'seen often', not in 'it's old'... as in 'hey look around the forums and the web and all over and see what it's commonly called'.

@darth pike: You're right, it does depend greatly across the regions, even in the same country. I guess I'm just used to Australia where we basically have the same name for everything we have.

I guess as well, that for the most part talking to most people they understand what I talk about, so *shrugs*. But yeah I guess names do vary greatly.

 

[darth pike]

@darth pike: You're right, it does depend greatly across the regions, even in the same country. I guess I'm just used to Australia where we basically have the same name for everything we have.

Even in the same city, as I mentioned. It would be great if we were like you guys down there when it came to common names ... if there were a standardized list it would make life much easier since it's darn near impossible to learn to pronounce scientific latin (My college offered latin, but it was ecclesiastical latin which from what I understand is pronounced differently so I passed). But alas, we get all confused up by the twenty different common names plus the wacky names people make up (see redhead geo for tapajos above) to make it sell better.

I had not honestly seen 'green texas' as a common name for the fish before joining this site. So I wouldn't say that was the common name myself. With that name, I'd assume it was H. sp. pantepec or H. sp. poza rica.

If I ever owned a pet store, it would definitely be latin names for the cichlids!!!!