which wil affect motoro stingray more, low ph or high ammonia?
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i heard from a guy that ammonia will kill ray and i just not sure if ammonia will kill ray or ph
probably i didn't make my thread clear
sorry
please be joking a ray wont last a day in 4 ammona it should be zero what size tank do you have whats in it what kind of filter do you have and how old is it btw a ph of 6 is fine
Ok I've clean up this thread. If it continues, the ban hammer is coming out and I swing hard.
To answer the actual question, high ammonia is worse. 4 is high. More details about your tank would help. It sounds like a new tank that can't handle the biological load of the rays. I've seen rays in 1.5 without showing ill effects, but it needs to be much closer to zero long term. If not, you need to look at more filtration to pull waste out before it breaks down.
Ammonia is less toxic at low pH. Most people don't fully understand the relationship between the two and the impact it has on the ability of the rays gills to function when exposed to them.
I suggest getting your water quality in check before buying the ray.
To answer the actual question, high ammonia is worse. 4 is high. More details about your tank would help. It sounds like a new tank that can't handle the biological load of the rays. I've seen rays in 1.5 without showing ill effects, but it needs to be much closer to zero long term. If not, you need to look at more filtration to pull waste out before it breaks down.
Ammonia is less toxic at low pH. Most people don't fully understand the relationship between the two and the impact it has on the ability of the rays gills to function when exposed to them.
I suggest getting your water quality in check before buying the ray.
A varying pH will affect the ray a LOT more than either high or low pH. Maintain what you have, after you get your tank fully cycled. As Zoodiver suggested, you probably don't have enough biomedia to support your stock, or perhaps your tank isn't big enough either thus filtration not enough anyway.
Motoros need a large tank footprint when they get older, And I think at least a 6x3 for a while will do fine (can grow out pups in a little bit smaller than this but will need an upgrade soon) to start and then upgrade the 3 to 4 foot wide when they get closer to mature size.
Motoros need a large tank footprint when they get older, And I think at least a 6x3 for a while will do fine (can grow out pups in a little bit smaller than this but will need an upgrade soon) to start and then upgrade the 3 to 4 foot wide when they get closer to mature size.
Many people may argue that pH would affect ammonia's toxicity.
While this is true as low pH means more ammonium [non toxic], IMO why risk it?
Make sure that your tank is fully cycled, that means ZERO in both ammonia and ammonium.
Then you don't have to care about the ph-ammonia toxicity relationship since it will always be non-toxic.
While this is true as low pH means more ammonium [non toxic], IMO why risk it?
Make sure that your tank is fully cycled, that means ZERO in both ammonia and ammonium.
Then you don't have to care about the ph-ammonia toxicity relationship since it will always be non-toxic.