maseyferguson05;1068891; said:I like Whispers, i love AC's more, but there is no way you can say that a Whisper is a pile of garbage.
They are cheap, easy to find and buy(walmart) No special filter cartridges to buy and they hook up easily onto a Hydro sponge. They also have way better flow adjustments than any AC i have every owned.
Saying that if i were walking down the street with 30 bucks and a guy wants to sell me an AC110 or a Whisper, you bet id take that AC.
Why do people say Biowheel filters? Couldint you say Emp, or Penguin or any other make/model with a biowheel. Theres some differences between a emp and penguin, and a penguin and Magnum H.O.T and the Aquclears people modify to accommodate a Biowheel.
I like the Emperors and Penguins the best, I also run H.O.T Mags with biowheels and they're ok but the micron catridge needs cleaned and switched out a lot depending on your stocking level.
The thing I didn't like about the Aquaclears is they seemed to have quite a bit of bypass and didn't polish as well. The Emperors and penguins polish really good especially if you run double cartridges. They were also kind of annoying to break down and clean compared to the Emp and Penguins (at least for me, other people don't seem to mind). I do like the fact that you can swap out some of the media to cycle other tanks, but I run a lot of normal canister filters so I have plenty of ceramic rings and such.
Someone else mentioned that the cartridges for the emps and penguins have to be changed out an awful lot, that's not necessarily true. If you have low stocking levels they should last a long time with some heavy rinsing every week. Drs Foster and Smith also makes their own brand of cartridges and you can open them up and replace them with filter floss or whatever polishing media you want, so it's not as bad as you think.
I just prefer Emperors and Penguins over A.C., but a lot of people prefer A.C so it's a case where you just have to try them yourself and see.
I have one Rena H.O.B and I LOVE it, but they're kind of pricey which is why I just bought the one to try. I would run just as many of these if they were easy to find and cost less for the flow rate you get. They have a definite advantage though as I have yet to see it get clogged, significantly lose flow rate or stop pumping EVER, whereas I have experienced this with all my other filters at one time or another except for my Rena canisters and cascade, but I haven't had the cascade long yet.
The Rena H.O.B filters will also pump until the water level is all the way below the top of the intake strainer, which is nice during a water change.
Whispers are good at polishing, but I still don't run any of them.