White Eyes After Salting - Columnaris/Flexibacter

[bjbass]

Well I was a bit surprised by the result. I had performed a water change a little over a week ago and it was about a 30-50%.

Ammonia .5
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 0-5
PH 6 (or lower possibly) I have very soft water in my town and I have in the past kept oyster shells in there to help keep the PH up as it is so low, but it doesn't keep up.

 

[bjbass]

Notice the two white spots that showed up after salting on the pectoral fin of the Oscar. None of this was visible at all until I upped the salt from .5 to 1.0%. The white eyes all showed up and the white spots on fins.

 

[bjbass]

I read a few things about septicemia and I think you might be right Aquanero. At one point a few months ago with all of this going on I did think that my Oscar had one eye that kind of popped out a little which could be pop eye, but the sudden death that set in quickly with my fish seems to be the case. Some of the native fish had patches of white on their skin with redness in them like I am reading it describes. However, does that account for the white columns of growth that are snot like that I have seen some of the victims have covering their body? They were all over and thin, but at the end they were bulbed out into a glob and it looked like they were a bunch of slimy growths that moved in the water while they swam.

 

[Aquanero]

Ammonia in the tank is an issue. Stop the meds and get the ammonia under control. Going foward you can medacate in a hospital tank. If you have the ability a 30 min bath in methylene blue one teaspoon per 5 gallons will help with ammonia burn and facilitate healing. But stop the meds and get the main tank back to normal. Low pH is good where ammonia is concerned as it is less toxic. There my be nothing wrong with the fish otherwise.

 

[bjbass]

Ammonia in the tank is an issue. Stop the meds and get the ammonia under control. Going foward you can medacate in a hospital tank. If you have the ability a 30 min bath in methylene blue one teaspoon per 5 gallons will help with ammonia burn and facilitate healing. But stop the meds and get the main tank back to normal. Low pH is good where ammonia is concerned as it is less toxic. There my be nothing wrong with the fish otherwise.

Fair enough. I am performing a water change right now. Will do a few over the next few days. This will get the ammonia down. Would this explain those white grows that I spoke about though? It seems as if I do possibly have some problems with infection as well, but the ammonia was just exacerbating the issue.

I didn't mention that Melafix and Pimafix have not done anything to help treat the tank either. However, obviously if Ammonia was the issue then that would have done nothing.

 

[Aquanero]

The thing is we have to address one issue at a time so we can see what else is going on. The discription you gave could possibily be an aeromonas infection but ammonia burn can also produce similar symptoms. After the ammonia issue is cleared up we can see what if anything is going on. However like I said before myth blue baths can help with ammonia burn and blood oxygen transfer. Don't use it in the main tank though only as a bath.

 

[bjbass]

The thing is we have to address one issue at a time so we can see what else is going on. The discription you gave could possibily be an aeromonas infection but ammonia burn can also produce similar symptoms. After the ammonia issue is cleared up we can see what if anything is going on. However like I said before myth blue baths can help with ammonia burn and blood oxygen transfer. Don't use it in the main tank though only as a bath.

Well I managed to get the ammonia to zero and maintain zero since we spoke. However this morning my pleco was dead and my arowana which rereading I didn't list is now showing the white growths. Here are some pictures

 

[Aquanero]

Try some API fungus cure as long as you don't have any scaleless fish in the tank. A dip in quick cure is also an option. Just be sure to follow the instructions.

 

[bjbass]

Try some API fungus cure as long as you don't have any scaleless fish in the tank. A dip in quick cure is also an option. Just be sure to follow the instructions.

Ok, sounds good! Do you know if they make the API Fungus Cure in a concentrated pond version?

Edit: Looks like they have a 10 packet version and also a bulk one. I have a 240 gallon aquarium.

 

[bjbass]

I just realized you said about scaleless fish. I also have a brown bullhead. This would kill him? I have used Pimafix and also in combination with Melafix, but they didn't seem to have worked in the past. These were safe for my catfish.