White spot diseases treatment on scaleless fishes

[Rocksor]

scaleless fishes couldn't use salt, especially catfishes

This is not true. There are many catfishes that can tolerate 3ppt-5ppt salt, and many scaleless fish that can tolerate it. The key is splitting up the dosage of salt used across 3 days or more.

1 gram of salt per 1 litre of water volume of day one. (1ppt)

Add additional 1 gram of salt per 1 litre of water volume of day two, so tank has total 2 gram of salt per litre (2ppt)

Add additional 1 gram of salt per 1 litre of water volume of day three, so tank has total 3 gram of salt per litre (3ppt)

 

[duanes]

This is not true. There are many catfishes that can tolerate 3ppt-5ppt salt, and many scaleless fish that can tolerate it. The key is splitting up the dosage of salt used across 3 days or more.

1 gram of salt per 1 litre of water volume of day one. (1ppt)

Add additional 1 gram of salt per 1 litre of water volume of day two, so tank has total 2 gram of salt per litre (2ppt)

Add additional 1 gram of salt per 1 litre of water volume of day three, so tank has total 3 gram of salt per litre (3ppt)

I agree.
Many medications available are simply diluted toxic metal compounds, that alter the osmotic pressure of the water (much in the same way salt does) to kill the emerging ick.
But salt is simply less toxic to your fish, scaleless or not, but just as osmotically challenging for the young ick..

 

[ILOVESHARKS]

Now they are all recovered, but sadly one of them hit the tank too hard and lost his life

 

[Rocksor]

Now they are all recovered, but sadly one of them hit the tank too hard and lost his life

Under the best temperature condition (77f-85f) ich has a 3 day life cycle, and when they are cysts in the substrate or white spot on the fish, medication will not kill them. Medication or salt will only kill the ich when they hatch from the substrate. You should continue treatment for another 7-10 days after no longer seeing ich on your fish.

 

[tiger15]

Under the best temperature condition (77f-85f) ich has a 3 day life cycle, and when they are cysts in the substrate or white spot on the fish, medication will not kill them. Medication or salt will only kill the ich when they hatch from the substrate. You should continue treatment for another 7-10 days after no longer seeing ich on your fish.

That is a myth. According to this aqua culture study comparing different ick remedies, malachite green and methylene blue based treatment can penetrate and attack existing ick on fish. Salt and most other remediies can prevent transmission but not much good for curing existing infection.

https://afspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1577/1548-8454(2001)063%3c0293%3ATFIIIC%3e2.0.CO%3B2

 

[Rocksor]

That is a myth. According to this aqua culture study comparing different ick remedies, malachite green and methylene blue based treatment can penetrate and attack existing ick on fish. Salt and most other remediies can prevent transmission but not much good for curing existing infection.

https://afspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1577/1548-8454(2001)063%3c0293%3ATFIIIC%3e2.0.CO%3B2

So which brands of methylene blue and malachite green have the proper dosages shown in the study?

 

[tiger15]

So which brands of methylene blue and malachite green have the proper dosages shown in the study?

The paper did not compare brand name, only the ingredient drug name. When you buy medication, you should look at the ingredient name, not the brand name. Here is the summary table of the investigation if you can access the full paper.

 

[Rocksor]

So

The paper did not compare brand name, only the ingredient drug name. When you buy medication, you should look at the ingredient name, not the brand name. Here is the summary table of the investigation if you can access the full paper.

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So if the ingredient in a brand is at a lesser dosage and not the same treatment time per the study, then chances are it wouldn't be as effective as shown in the study and able to kill the ich while still on the fish.