That's what it says on the tag at my lfs. White spot T R pike, Googled it and came up with nothing. Anyone heard of this common name? Man I hate common names. It always complicates things. Thanks.
white spot tr pike?
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Hard to tell with retailer, importers and distributors. They like to slap a name on there
just to help sell the fish. Best to post a pic and then members will better able to
help.
just to help sell the fish. Best to post a pic and then members will better able to
help.
Yeah I figured I just wanted to see if anyone had heard of it before I buy it. I just don't have room for a pike over 10 or 11 inches. Well I could just get it and set up a new tank that's as good of an excuse as any, right?
fish_n_vw;3465536; said:
You have no idea how strongly I agree with that statement.
ShadowStryder;3465539; said:
As frustrating as it is, thats the absolute truth. Pictures are sometimes the only way to go.
fish_n_vw;3465555; said:
Sounds like a Saxatilis group pike. So chances are it won't get past 12".
Pretty soon you'll be able to tell the difference between Lugubris and Saxatilis group pikes. They have their own unique look.
Its definitely a great reason to set up another tank! hahaha! Now your talking!!
Btw...not sure if you have ever tried keeping multiple pikes, but if you do, you're in for a little surprise. Generally pikes are pretty aggressive towards other pikes unless they have a lot of room, or are a mated pair. So just be prepared for that. Its normally wiser to buy them in groups of three or more to lower the aggression and allow them to pair up.
Well from what I've seen with cichlids there are two ways to keep them. 1 way understock give penty of territories too be established and watch vary little ineraction bewteen your fish after the dust clears. Or slightly overstock providing few territories. I have been flamed for saying that before but it dosnt bother me. I've been keeping cichlids for over 13 years spawned well over a dozen spieces and raised there fry. So I feel with the experiance I have I know my way to be an ecceptable and not cruel by anymeans way of keeping cichlids. But a little over a year ago I got my mystery sveni and that's the first pike I've ever had. So can i not keep pikes the same way I keep other new world cichlids will that just not work because I was going to go with a pike coomunity raising several spieces in one larg tank. Thanks for all the help. And I am excited to join you guys in the world of pikes.
That last post is meant to be informative on my experiance with pikes and I reread it and I kinda sound jerky in it. I assure you those are not my intentions. Sorry and thanks.
No worries mate, I understood what you were saying.
Generally, you can keep Crenicichla like you would other SA/CA cichlids, but you do have to be ready to make changes ASAP. Reason I say that is that they will often actively seek out each other. They really just don't like other pikes. LoL Which is why most people either keep them in pairs, or solo.
Doing multiple pike tanks can be done though, you just have to work at it and tweek it every now and then. If you grow them all up together the chances of it working out are much better. AND having a larger tank really helps out.
I know several people who have multiple species of pikes in the same tank. In almost every case though, they are tanks larger than 125gals. Some pikes will work well with others.
Some people believe that if you mix different families it works out better. Like putting Saxatilis, Lugubris, and Reticulatus pikes together. Really, its all hit and miss. Sometimes it works out great, other times its a disaster.
Generally, you can keep Crenicichla like you would other SA/CA cichlids, but you do have to be ready to make changes ASAP. Reason I say that is that they will often actively seek out each other. They really just don't like other pikes. LoL Which is why most people either keep them in pairs, or solo.
Doing multiple pike tanks can be done though, you just have to work at it and tweek it every now and then. If you grow them all up together the chances of it working out are much better. AND having a larger tank really helps out.
I know several people who have multiple species of pikes in the same tank. In almost every case though, they are tanks larger than 125gals. Some pikes will work well with others.
Some people believe that if you mix different families it works out better. Like putting Saxatilis, Lugubris, and Reticulatus pikes together. Really, its all hit and miss. Sometimes it works out great, other times its a disaster.
It seems that even with scientific names you don't really know what you get untill they are a bit older anyways. I'm reefering to my lfs ordering three belly crawlers and getting 1 sveni, 1 belly crawler and 1 4 lined (still haven't got pics yet). I think it makes it kinda fun. Buy it, raise it, and then find out what it is. Its all so new to me. I'm used to searching out specific speices after doing a crap load of research. I'm gonna go to a better shop today actually its probably the best shop in washington state. Don't mean to name drop or sound like I'm pluging the joint but if anyone is ever in western washington check out A PLACE FOR PETS in burien. But I'm sure they will have more accurate names for there pikes.
Don't rely on LFS names of Crenicichla. Learn to identify them on your own, then you will be armed with the best weapon ever: knowledge.
Its fairly easy to ID pikes when they are juv. , as each one has its own unique characteristic in some way. Some do look similar, especially some of the Lugubris pikes, but if you pay close enough attention, you can still spot the differences.
The 'difficult' ones are the Saxatilis pikes, but even those wouldn't be so bad if you just knew the locality of where they were collected from. Even then, it can be fairly easy to ID them as long as you know what to look for.
Buy yourself an Aqualog Volume I. It is a very valuable resource to have when trying to ID Crenicichla. Speaking of which, I still need to get myself one.
Btw...if you want some great pikes, you should check out Wet Spot Tropics (is that right?) and Cichlid Exchange. They are up in your area, well worth the drive. Grey Wyman sells a lot of fish for Wet Spot on Aquabid...he is wetspotcx on there. Thats where I've gotten all my current pikes from.
Its fairly easy to ID pikes when they are juv. , as each one has its own unique characteristic in some way. Some do look similar, especially some of the Lugubris pikes, but if you pay close enough attention, you can still spot the differences.
The 'difficult' ones are the Saxatilis pikes, but even those wouldn't be so bad if you just knew the locality of where they were collected from. Even then, it can be fairly easy to ID them as long as you know what to look for.
Buy yourself an Aqualog Volume I. It is a very valuable resource to have when trying to ID Crenicichla. Speaking of which, I still need to get myself one.
Btw...if you want some great pikes, you should check out Wet Spot Tropics (is that right?) and Cichlid Exchange. They are up in your area, well worth the drive. Grey Wyman sells a lot of fish for Wet Spot on Aquabid...he is wetspotcx on there. Thats where I've gotten all my current pikes from.