Who needs Cichla?:D
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Thanks alot, in fact I'm not sure. Sold to me as T.Meeki, but I don't think it is. Stratoquarius also thought it could be a different species, but he didn't see that pic yet.
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Yeah, doesn't look like a meeki to me. Might be an ellioti, but I have one that's swimming right in front of me atm and doesn't really look like that either, I'm thinking maybe aureum. Doesn't look like a helleri or pasionis.
But I've gotta admit, I'm new to Thorichthys...es, so can't be certain.
But I've gotta admit, I'm new to Thorichthys...es, so can't be certain.
I know the word "hybrid" gets shoved out there too often. but it doesn't look exactly like any one species. now this doesn't necessarily mean its a hybrid. it may be a individual of one species that shows attractive abnormal traits to the species, such as a firemouth with really really nice blue spangling.
I know I have seen a few impressive male firemouths with lots of red, or some blue spangling. but this seems to be a lot of spangling for a 2" firemouth. either it's from a locality with lots of blue and is a high quality specimen (we have all seen those show fish with INSANE colouration, they have to come from somewhere)
either way we can keep figuring this out as the fish grows. it may develop more and more blue until it turns out to be ellioti or something.
truly stunning fish though Chub_by I hope you plan on breeding it!
can I also add, that if you hyridise 2 fish together you get about 200 dull brown fish, and maybe 1 or 2 with attractive features. to produce really nice hybrids takes years and years of line breeding and planning out the traits you wish to keep or cull. for someone to make a hybrid that came out that good, and it be sold with firemouths really wouldn't make a whole lot of sense would it? So I am positive its a fully blooded species, just right now not too sure which! I saw juvenile ellioti that looked a lot like that, but they were also around 1" so they might have changed.
I know I have seen a few impressive male firemouths with lots of red, or some blue spangling. but this seems to be a lot of spangling for a 2" firemouth. either it's from a locality with lots of blue and is a high quality specimen (we have all seen those show fish with INSANE colouration, they have to come from somewhere)
either way we can keep figuring this out as the fish grows. it may develop more and more blue until it turns out to be ellioti or something.
truly stunning fish though Chub_by I hope you plan on breeding it!
can I also add, that if you hyridise 2 fish together you get about 200 dull brown fish, and maybe 1 or 2 with attractive features. to produce really nice hybrids takes years and years of line breeding and planning out the traits you wish to keep or cull. for someone to make a hybrid that came out that good, and it be sold with firemouths really wouldn't make a whole lot of sense would it? So I am positive its a fully blooded species, just right now not too sure which! I saw juvenile ellioti that looked a lot like that, but they were also around 1" so they might have changed.
Definately got you on the hybrid thing. Doesn't seem that logical to me, and why would any wholesaler keep T.meeki and a rarer species like ellioti in one tank? What I also want to add, the other FM's in the LFS tank also had lots of red and blue, but none had this orange rim in the dorsal fin.. They were also smaller though.
I might just ask my LFS where these FM's came from, maybe the wholesaler can enlighten me a bit about the species etc.
I really hope it will grow over 4", I'd love to see this fish at that size.
Yeah Strat I would try breeding it, but the problem is I wouldn't want to create a hybrid, so I'd need a female from the same batch. All too small for gender ID..
Another problem is what should I do with the fry? Not many dedicated firemouth keepers where I live
I'll definately keep you updated on this one
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I might just ask my LFS where these FM's came from, maybe the wholesaler can enlighten me a bit about the species etc.
I really hope it will grow over 4", I'd love to see this fish at that size.
Yeah Strat I would try breeding it, but the problem is I wouldn't want to create a hybrid, so I'd need a female from the same batch. All too small for gender ID..
Another problem is what should I do with the fry? Not many dedicated firemouth keepers where I live
I'll definately keep you updated on this one
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