why are VIP REDS illegal in U.S.?

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aropal;1030809; said:
Well of course when the law was first considered there was not the micro chipped mass farming that we have now. Since that time however it has become increasingly clear just how much damage non native species can do to local ecosystems.

I’m sure you can imagine how many people in the warmer parts of the US would immediately start breeding programmes and the proportional damage unleashed when many of those fish, as would be inevitable, worked their way into the water system.

It would be ecological madness to allow Asian arowana into the warmer parts of the US even if they are very pretty fish.
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Why don't Jardini, silvers and blacks get released into our native waters? They are all legal so indescriminate releases should have happened already. Maybe they can't compete with the Peacock bass that are taking over. :D
 
Zoodiver;1031731; said:
They're endangered. We don't roll like that over here.
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How are captive bred fish endangered ?

The US government are quite clearly, and very sensibly, using this as an excuse to prevent their entry as an ecological protection.
 
Zoodiver;1031731; said:
These guys aren't a fear of release issue in the US. They're endangered. We don't roll like that over here.
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Thats B.S, there's plenty of other things listed in the CITES Apendix 1 that aren't banned in the US, like the entire cycad genus Encephalartos. As the person above said, they're all farm-raised so why does their status in habitat have any effect on weather or not they should be allowed in the trade? CITES may offer protection to fish etc in habitat, but it makes it a whole lot harder to breed/increase/save a species as it makes it very difficult to ship them between countries, and making it illegal to own F2 captive bred fish doesnt help.
 
David R;1032946; said:
Thats B.S, …
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Look buddy, you don't like what I say then stick to counter argument rather than describing what I say using inflammatory language.

David R;1032946; said:
CITES may offer protection to fish etc in habitat, but it makes it a whole lot harder to breed/increase/save a species as it makes it very difficult to ship them between countries, and making it illegal to own F2 captive bred fish doesnt help.
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This is incorrect. (see how easy it is) It is within the CITIES framework that all the captive breeding efforts in the far east have taken place.

There is no difficulty shipping fish between countries. All you need to do is engage in the simple, and reliable chipped tracking process.

The only illegal issue is with non controlled fish. Fish which are not chipped and tracked by CITIES.

The only countries it is hard to ship to are those which have decided not to participate in the CITIES controlled trading in fish.

These countries are the weak spot in the conservation process and it is shipment to these countries which create the black-market of fish trade to which non chipped and potentially wild caught fish are most likely to be shipped.
 
u didnt know that asain aros were illegal in the us?
 
Hey just a question. NOT GOING TO DO THIS BY THE WAY!!! What's the penalty it you get one from Canada and bring it to the US and get caught with it???
 
Any Asian Arowana Law experts out there ?????
 
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