Why I disagree when people say 75 gallons is suitable for jags.

[dan518]

Not my tank,

His YouTube channel is well worth a visit

 

[azmtns]

Most hobbyist fishkeepers do not keep their fish long enough to get to these sizes. I think this place is the exception. Most people kill off, or move their fish and a 75 gallon is fine for them. I know you all here a purist and keep fish to ripe old ages.... but I very much doubt that happens much.

 

[ragin_cajun]

Not my tank,

I'd really like to find some pieces of flat driftwood like he has in the video. I'd prefer the look to flat pieces of slate or flagstone. Something to give a Jag to hide under and call his own is a requirement when they get big and mature, I think.

Somebody post a link to flat pieces of driftwood like that if you see one?

 

[eyespot]

I would keep anything up to JD size in a 75. A 75 is waaaaay to small for jags, this is bookmarked now

Are any of the parachromis specie like the mota or freddi suitable for a 75 with good maintenance

I don't have personal experience with them so I can't say though I've seen big male mots that seemed too large for a 75. I think freddies are a bit smaller. I kept a grammodes before and they're cool mini guapotes that stay pretty small (I think they max out around 8 inches). Not real flashy but great personalities.

 

[eyespot]

Have you kept a Jag in a community with Vieja? I'd like to know what you think about Jags in a large tank (300G +) with Vieja. I tried it with no luck, but the Jag I had was just all aggression all the time, flaring constantly, and thinking half the tank was his area.

I'd like to get another one, but not if it's gonna be like that.

I had a big Synspilum male that I kept in a 265 community with a female jag for years that got along great. The jag that just died tolerated different tank mates when he was younger but when he got older he only tolerated a female polleni who he lived with for a long time that died a couple of years ago and a festae female who I got last year. He tried to kill a female synspilum I briefly tried before the festae. There's also two royal plecos and a small school of roseline barbs in the tank he didn't bother. You can never tell for sure and unfortunately it comes down to trial and error but with the bigger tank and starting them out together at a smaller size you'll definitely have a better chance of success.

 

[eyespot]

I'd really like to find some pieces of flat driftwood like he has in the video. I'd prefer the look to flat pieces of slate or flagstone. Something to give a Jag to hide under and call his own is a requirement when they get big and mature, I think.

Somebody post a link to flat pieces of driftwood like that if you see one?

That's a sweet set up.

 

[eyespot]

Most hobbyist fishkeepers do not keep their fish long enough to get to these sizes. I think this place is the exception. Most people kill off, or move their fish and a 75 gallon is fine for them. I know you all here a purist and keep fish to ripe old ages.... but I very much doubt that happens much.

I think you're right about that. I used to live in Prescott! Cool (crazy) little town. Small world!

 

[keystonewma]

Awesome fish!
I agree with statement of a few others, that a person would be OK for at least a couple of years if maintenance is good. Growth will slow a great deal once they hit 10" or so.

I have 2 at about 14", but both certainly lack the girth of your 10 year old.

 

[Hendre]

I would rather keep them in a 100+

I intend on keeping smaller fish, and if i redo my tank i want some african glass catfish
Cichlids are for another day