Did anyone ever see the jeff corwin show where he's in LA and pulls up an alligator snapper from the mud I'm sure it was a captive maybe even the one whos holding the weight record it was a staged find but anyway the things head was as big as jeffs and its shell was so big he could only lift it like 1/3 out of the water just to get the head above the water I have it on VHS some where it's a bad recording for tv like 7 or 8 years ago close to his first season I'll look for it