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JD7.62;1804488; said:
I dont know, that is why I said I was speculating. My guess it's a university working with their govt and that is why there is no smuggling or much info on our (fish keeping) side of things because it is not important to them.

I have spent hours going through many different scientific journal databases and sadly I have yet to come up with anything in English about these fish. The articles stickied at top have very little information in them even!
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Im curious how you know they are breeding them if you are only speculating that these institutions exist, and you have not found anything in english to back up your claim.

Im just very skeptical when it comes to ST breeding because no one has been able to produce any videos, pictures, documentation, names of any orginization, or even a "friend of a friend who knows someone" story. And of coarse the fact that there isn't a single known ST under 4" seems to disprove any claim of successful breeding.

There was someone on these forums a while back who talked about "secret pulcher breeding societies" but couldn't produce a single spec of evidence to back any of it up. After being asked repeatedly for ANY type of info, he left this forum.
 
JD7.62;1804488; said:
I dont know, that is why I said I was speculating. My guess it's a university working with their govt and that is why there is no smuggling or much info on our (fish keeping) side of things because it is not important to them.

I have spent hours going through many different scientific journal databases and sadly I have yet to come up with anything in English about these fish. The articles stickied at top have very little information in them even!
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well when you have found the info then share it but until then my opion is they are no being bred

until you can prove your claims they mean nothing
 
I was speculating on why they were not being smuggled out, not if they were being bred. One person Ive talked to frequents this forum and he will speak up if he wants to.

T1, actually that doesnt. That means there isnt enough interest in them to write anything about it. Even failed attempts would be documented.

I'm done for now. Yall have distracted me from work too much today! Hopefully soon people in the U.S. will enjoy some baby STs.
 
Already being translated for me! :grinno:

Getting the egg and sperm together and getting them to hatch is very easy with any fish through artificial methods. Keeping the fry alive is the hard part. Hopefully we can over come that part but out a 10s of thousands of eggs perhaps we could get a few to survive. ;)
 
Thanks. We already have the correct hormones needed to induce egg and sperm developement, the right chemicals to keep the fertilized eggs seperated and the equipment needed to harvest the sperm and eggs and the rearing tanks, all we need now are some large STs.

The only critical info we need is size at maturity. If we inject the fish and they are not mature we can permanently damage their reproductive systems.

I have a 12" NTT that Im sure is mature based on max size so I may go ahead and inject the fish with the hormones and see how he/she reacts. Maybe if I can prove with photos that we can indeed get the eggs/sperm some one would like to help us out financially for a little kick back! ;)

BTW, the fish will react to the injections as it is universal. It is commonly used on barramundi which is the closest related fish to dats (I think) that I can find information on inregards to breeding in this manner.


We have high hopes we will get fertilized eggs, its the survival rate that could be a problem. We have no idea what its like. generall though with perches it is good but we will see.
 
:popcorn:;):popcorn:
 
Only a matter of time after breeding before someone ends up with a "oops it's a snowy morph" dat.. :nilly:
 
lol

Ive already day dreamed of seperating them out once they are big enough to see pattern/color clearly and going through them one by one to look for that "perfect" ST!
 
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