wild caught crocodile monitors?

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AW2EOD;3075128; said:
I wouldn't waste the money, nor the time to put in a 1500gal pond. My pond is a prefab koi pond 7' x 4' x 18" and mine barely uses it, other than to drink.

As for the breeding questions, I'm gonna have to say again...go to varnus.nl and ask there. There are two guys that have breeding pairs and when they get eggs, they immediately sell them, as they won't sell this species.

The "indoor hibernating racks" that you've described would work for junenilves, but not for adults, IMO.

If you're planning on building an enclosure of this size, I'd look into block foundation/walls. Once you price that and then lumber and wire mesh, you're gonna see that it's more cost efficient. I'd lay down block maybe 4' tall and then continue with wire mesh. For the roof, I'd try the corrugated fiberglass...it's cheap, light and allows some light to pass thru.
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I have been looking at chainlink and wire mesh fencing, for the front area of the enclosure. This is the part where the sun will be and the entrance for me to come in if I need to.. I was wondering about this material, becuase I have read that some lizards/ monitors get their toes or claws stuck in the meshing or wireing and can lose a toenail or even a toe if it is bad enough... Have you heard anything about this or stories from monitor keepers that have out door enclosures or that use this material in there set ups? Because i can get this stuff pretty much for free, and would be simple to use, but i won't if it can hurt my monitors..
 
Anything you feel will be a hazard to them catching their toes is a no-no, IMO.

With the space you're talking about using, you could make this a year round enclosure. Contain the space, you have plenty of area to build separate habitats and then install electrical. You only need to maintain an ambient temp and give them basking areas.

You don't really want them climbing up walls...you'd need to install standing trees, cross branches, etc. Alot of people even use lattice, but for a species this big and heavy, I don't think it'd be feasible.
 
AW2EOD;3077692; said:
Anything you feel will be a hazard to them catching their toes is a no-no, IMO.

With the space you're talking about using, you could make this a year round enclosure. Contain the space, you have plenty of area to build separate habitats and then install electrical. You only need to maintain an ambient temp and give them basking areas.

You don't really want them climbing up walls...you'd need to install standing trees, cross branches, etc. Alot of people even use lattice, but for a species this big and heavy, I don't think it'd be feasible.
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This weekend I will be taking out all the weeds and garbage around the area, and leveling some places. I have alot of cut down trees in the yard, I think they are ucalyptis (sp) trees, but no sap or leaves on them anymore.


As for the year round, that sounds alot better, I like the sound of that better than trying to catch them and stick them in a box for winter every year! Ha,

Pictures of the space. and Beggining fazes of the area will be uploaded this weekend!!
:)
 
Bsixxx;3076290; said:
I have been looking at chainlink and wire mesh fencing, for the front area of the enclosure. This is the part where the sun will be and the entrance for me to come in if I need to.. I was wondering about this material, becuase I have read that some lizards/ monitors get their toes or claws stuck in the meshing or wireing and can lose a toenail or even a toe if it is bad enough... Have you heard anything about this or stories from monitor keepers that have out door enclosures or that use this material in there set ups? Because i can get this stuff pretty much for free, and would be simple to use, but i won't if it can hurt my monitors..
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I think that would be a mistake to not maximize the useable surface area. You can use plastic mesh with larger holes so that the toes and claws do not get stuck. You would also need to close the enclosure up during the winter months if you in fact decide to keep them year round outside. In the winter even in Southern Cali, the temps get way too cold for a crocodile monitor to thrive with just a couple of lights at their bask spot. Winter temps and the dryness of the cold air will kill the monitor within a few days. You can put plastic panelling in the enclosure to keep the warm temps in and the cold temps out. This will be more expensive to do than just simply building two indoor winter enclosures. You wont have to really worry aout picking them up and such, throw a rat in a rubbermaid and close the lid when they get to it.

Cheers
 
Sorry guys, Didn't make it out to the enclosure spot, to take pictures this weekend, It was mothers day, and forgot that I had to break down and help move my 210 gallon tank which I sold. So I didn't take pictures or even make it out. But this weekend for sure I will be getting pictures, as well as the new member to the family :)
 
Bsixxx;3103610; said:
Sorry guys, Didn't make it out to the enclosure spot, to take pictures this weekend, It was mothers day, and forgot that I had to break down and help move my 210 gallon tank which I sold. So I didn't take pictures or even make it out. But this weekend for sure I will be getting pictures, as well as the new member to the family :)
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if i had the time, money, and commitment. then i'd do it.
plus, if they DO breed, the babies will definitely be profitable cause i've only seen on cb croc monitor so far in my searching.
 
black_monster;3125014; said:
if i had the time, money, and commitment. then i'd do it.
plus, if they DO breed, the babies will definitely be profitable cause i've only seen on cb croc monitor so far in my searching.
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Ok a little update.
Havn't been on in a while to post or even do that much work, do to graduation and other stuff.
however I am building a new enclosure in my garage/ bedroom, for my new CBB baby black throat monitor. Who arrives tomorrow morning.

All I have done so far in the out door enclosure, is get rid of weeds and trash, and leveled the ground. And started to build an exterior wall for the base of the enclosure, but I was in a rush and didn't take pictures before I left. Sorry,


That's it so far, just been busy busy busy..
updates in a week..:popcorn:
 
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