wild caught oscars

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Just curious if any one knows about or has input on this, I have read in several places that Oscars tend to be sensitive to water quality, making them more susceptible to disease and parasites, particularly HITH. They say this is because of them being line bred and inbred so much. If thats the case, then i would assume that wild caught Oscars would have none of these problems, or at least to a lesser degree. Any one know anything about this? or had personal experience with the difference?
I have had a couple Oscars in the past (when I was relatively new to the hobby) Neither of them lasted a very long time. All my other fish did fine. I suppose that now I know how to take care of them, I would have better luck, but if wild caught has a better chance, I would rather go with them.
Thanks!
 
captainawesome;981023; said:
Just curious if any one knows about or has input on this, I have read in several places that Oscars tend to be sensitive to water quality, making them more susceptible to disease and parasites, particularly HITH. They say this is because of them being line bred and inbred so much. If thats the case, then i would assume that wild caught Oscars would have none of these problems, or at least to a lesser degree. Any one know anything about this? or had personal experience with the difference?
I have had a couple Oscars in the past (when I was relatively new to the hobby) Neither of them lasted a very long time. All my other fish did fine. I suppose that now I know how to take care of them, I would have better luck, but if wild caught has a better chance, I would rather go with them.
Thanks!
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From my experience, oscars are extremely hardy, If an oscar does get hith. it would be because of a lack in water quality of a great extent, or because of constaint live feedings. Both are the aquarists error. If you stay away from live foods< unquaretined goldfish and such and keep water quality prestine with good filtration and water changes, then you shouldn't need to buy wild caught oscars. though in my case I ALWAYS prefer wild caught fish, when possible i always buy F0's, being that ways, that there is no chance of the fish being any sort of petstore hybrid.
 
---XR---;981046; said:
though in my case I ALWAYS prefer wild caught fish, when possible i always buy F0's
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just for the record, f0 doesn't mean wild caught. f0 is the first parents in a line of breeding fish. their offspring would be f1, then f2 and so forth. not trying to jack this thread or be a smarta*s, i just wanted to point out what f0 is thanks. :)
 
---XR---;981046; said:
From my experience, oscars are extremely hardy, If an oscar does get hith. it would be because of a lack in water quality of a great extent, or because of constaint live feedings. Both are the aquarists error. If you stay away from live foods< unquaretined goldfish and such and keep water quality prestine with good filtration and water changes, then you shouldn't need to buy wild caught oscars. though in my case I ALWAYS prefer wild caught fish, when possible i always buy F0's, being that ways, that there is no chance of the fish being any sort of petstore hybrid.
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XR is right but I have a Q for skid I always wondered why they label parents as F0. I was taught a parent generation is labeled P then F1, F2 and so on.
 
Filial generations and fish generations are different. Fish keepers have kind of taken filial generations and warped them.

As to the oscars being more hardy wild caught, I'd say oscars get HITH more because they're abused more than other fish. Just give it a big tank with clean water and it will be fine.
 
FWIW, I prefer F1 due to their (typical) ability to be more hardy because of the controlled environment in which they're (generally) raised in.


IME they're more stable and comfortable (less skiddish)
 
rallysman;981362; said:
FWIW, I prefer F1 due to their (typical) ability to be more hardy because of the controlled environment in which they're (generally) raised in.


IME they're more stable and comfortable (less skiddish)
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A little tank experience in the gene pool doesn't hurt.
 
Cross127;981264; said:
XR is right but I have a Q for skid I always wondered why they label parents as F0. I was taught a parent generation is labeled P then F1, F2 and so on.
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yes correct to be even more technical the parents aren't really even f0. f=filial. (i copied this from the ask.com dictionary: "fil·i·al" (f&#301;l'&#275;-&#601;l)adj. Genetics. Of or relating to a generation or the sequence of generations following the parental generation.") so f1 f2 f3 and so forth are correct as following generations. for the parents we use "P" for parental. this is the starting point of 2 unrelated individuals to create a new gene set.
 
I love it when threads tun into something completely different :P thanks for the replies all. I wouldn't mind f1 with wild caught parents, but I have no idea where to get those, or even if I have ever seen them labeled that way...it wont be for a little while....but if anyone knows of where to get them, let me know. As for the clean tank, yeah, I have learned all that now. it was a long time ago that U had them before. I was like 13 and thought a 55 gallon tank was HUGE. so naive :)
 
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