Wild Caught?

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yokozuna

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If store-bought cichlids was released into a lake or a river.....and they began to breed successfully......how many generations down the line will they be considered "wild" again.

...or is this not possible.

thanks!
 
hmm, how did you come up with this question?

when day i was being a pot head and asked my friend
"what if we had 3 legs and 2 arms? how would we walk?"

you just asked basically the same question haha, so now i'm wondering?
 
yokozuna;3240842; said:
If store-bought cichlids was released into a lake or a river.....and they began to breed successfully......how many generations down the line will they be considered "wild" again.

...or is this not possible.

thanks!
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when they lose there trust of humans , the limited amount they have, and can find there own food.

so most fish its one generation. most fish arent domesticated. they are just wild animals in captivity.
to be domesticated they must have these qualities.
  1. Flexible diet — Creatures that are willing to consume a wide variety of food sources and can live off less cumulative food from the food pyramid (such as corn or wheat), particularly food that is not utilized by humans (such as grass and forage) are less expensive to keep in captivity. Carnivores by their very nature only feed on meat, which requires the expenditure of many animals, though they may feed on sources of meat not utilized by humans, such as scraps and vermin.
  2. Reasonably fast growth rate — Fast maturity rate compared to the human life span allows breeding intervention and makes the animal useful within an acceptable duration of caretaking. Large animals such as elephants require many years before they reach a useful size.
  3. Ability to be bred in captivity — Creatures that are reluctant to breed when kept in captivity do not produce useful offspring, and instead are limited to capture in their wild state. Creatures such as the panda, antelope and giant forest hogs are territorial when breeding and cannot be maintained in crowded enclosures in captivity.
  4. Pleasant disposition — Large creatures that are aggressive toward humans are dangerous to keep in captivity. The African buffalo has an unpredictable nature and is highly dangerous to humans. Although similar to domesticated pigs in many ways, American peccaries and Africa's warthogs and bushpigs are also dangerous in captivity.
  5. Temperament which makes it unlikely to panic — A creature with a nervous disposition is difficult to keep in captivity as they will attempt to flee whenever they are startled. The gazelle is very flighty and it has a powerful leap that allows it to escape an enclosed pen. Some animals, such as Domestic sheep, still have a strong tendency to panic when their flight zone is crossed. However, most sheep also show a flocking instinct, whereby they stay close together when pressed. Livestock with such an instinct may be herded by people and dogs.
  6. Modifiable social hierarchy — Social creatures that recognize a hierarchy of dominance can be raised to recognize a human as the pack leader.
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I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that because he lives in Hawaii, that there are plenty of feral cichlids there already, and he wants to know if he catches them, if he can sell them as wild caught.
 
duanes;3241154; said:
I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that because he lives in Hawaii, that there are plenty of feral cichlids there already, and he wants to know if he catches them, if he can sell them as wild caught.
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Lol hustlinnnnnnn'
 
duanes;3241154; said:
I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that because he lives in Hawaii, that there are plenty of feral cichlids there already, and he wants to know if he catches them, if he can sell them as wild caught.
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If this is in fact your intention I can assure you that it is 100% illegal.
 
sostoudt;3240876; said:
when they lose there trust of humans , the limited amount they have, and can find there own food.
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I thoroughly disagree...

In my eyes the biggest advantage to having a wild caught Cichlid is that they are the result of "survival of the fittest" and "natural selective breeding" for endless generations. This gives them the best odds at being a genetically strong specimen as well as genetic diversity making them excellent canadates for breeding.

With aquarium breeding human assistance keeps most of the fry alive, all too often uses random quality fish as breeders and sibling to sibling pairs are common. This (usually) makes aquarium bred fish inferior and letting them swim in a natural river or lake for a year or two, or even breed in natural conditions for a generation or two, does not repair the genetic make up of the fish.

In my opinion, once a fish is removed from the wild and put through the rings of aquarium breeding for multiple generations, it nor it's offspring will ever be true wild stock quality...

FYI - If I purchased a fish as "Wild Caught" and later found out the fish was caught in non native waters I would feel cheated and would insist the seller refund the purchase. I would also take steps to make it well known the seller was a cheat.
 
so catch wild plecos on our ranch lake?
 
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