Nice tank bderick! One question how come the red tailed prochilodus dorsa; is bent like that? It is awesome by the way.
will a 18in aro eat a clown loach
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How do you keep up with the pooping?
How often do you do water changes?
Nice tank btw
Only thing I would add.. is lookging at BD's set-up more 'n a few times... he has other "dither" type fish in the tank to make the arrows decide to go after somethign else first and in general disperse aggression tendancies... I think just the CL's and the arrows lands a very good chance of loseing a CL.. and no ones mentined yet the cheek spines on CL's and how if an arrow decided to eat one it might get lodged in it's throat and kill both fish... but the cats would imo be of more concern... my TSN ate anything it could stuff in it's mouth. You can try it but there are other species that also eat snails as good as CL's do. Most loach species fall into this catagory. or you may try a group of assassin snails instead. There are more options then just CL's or Chemicals.
Minor fin nips are no big deal, I would not consider that fighting. When arowana fight, generally they have to be separated or one will die.
Thanks.
Thanks, not sure what you mean, but the flagtails with long dorsals just look that way.
Thanks, I just do weekly 50% water changes and cleanings. Have two fluval FX5s and a sump for filtration.
Kinda wanted a loach cause of the colors
Any other fish thats good in size and have more chances with my tank?
Yea to think of it I think my shovel nose would probably be big enough to eat it, any suggestions?
My rtc hides a lot and usually only eat things that I feed him through the tong
Any other fish thats good in size and have more chances with my tank?
Yea to think of it I think my shovel nose would probably be big enough to eat it, any suggestions?
My rtc hides a lot and usually only eat things that I feed him through the tong
In undergrad we had a big predator system with an aro that would eat.... anything & anybody. Plus a couple of horrible rice & snowflake eels and snakehead & CK & leaf-fish & blah blah blah. And at the bottom of the list were two 2" clowns that ran the show. I saw the aro stalk them a couple of times, and break off at the last minute. I reckon that clowns have that lovely colour as a warning for a secondary chemical defence of some sort, like wasps or caterpillars or coral snakes. Apparently you shouldn't transport clowns with other fish as they put on this defence when stressed & it kills the bag-mates. That'll be the next PhD maybe...
The stories you hear of clowns being eaten by larger mates are usually when the loach is introduced to an established tank. Loach goes in fresh (without initial stress ample to put on distasteful slime-coat?) and looks like food so gets 'et. It seems if the loach is in there first and the predator goes in afterwards then things are better. I think we did well in our system as the predation risk was chronic, so the defence was permanent. That might explain why they didn't grow, too.
Plus, you'll need a school of >4 loaches for them to be happy, so if they're all going to be big then get your credit worked out before you go shopping.
I'd also agree that your cats will be a bigger issue than the aro.
Go with assassin snails, or traps... or dwarf-puffers? They might be tiny enough to not fit into the trophic cascade and go unnoticed. Though fugu poisoning of larger fish would be a headache....
Or don't worry about it. Snails are good for overall ecology & keeping the glass clean. Maybe introduce a big pleco or mystery snails to compete for food- that will decrease the # of "nuisance" snails, IME.
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The stories you hear of clowns being eaten by larger mates are usually when the loach is introduced to an established tank. Loach goes in fresh (without initial stress ample to put on distasteful slime-coat?) and looks like food so gets 'et. It seems if the loach is in there first and the predator goes in afterwards then things are better. I think we did well in our system as the predation risk was chronic, so the defence was permanent. That might explain why they didn't grow, too.
Plus, you'll need a school of >4 loaches for them to be happy, so if they're all going to be big then get your credit worked out before you go shopping.
I'd also agree that your cats will be a bigger issue than the aro.
Go with assassin snails, or traps... or dwarf-puffers? They might be tiny enough to not fit into the trophic cascade and go unnoticed. Though fugu poisoning of larger fish would be a headache....
Or don't worry about it. Snails are good for overall ecology & keeping the glass clean. Maybe introduce a big pleco or mystery snails to compete for food- that will decrease the # of "nuisance" snails, IME.
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The problem is that the snails started over populating not on my glass but on and under my sand, it makes my sand look real dirty + they are getting into my filters too, I have a 12" royal but don't think it's enough
Malaysian Trumpet Snails (MTS) then? They're good for keeping the sand turned over and will keep your sand healthy. The jury seems to be out as to wether puffers can handle them as the shell is very tough.
Trap them- there are designs online and it's pretty simple, apparently. That or they should be on/up the glass at night, so net them out after dark.
Trap them- there are designs online and it's pretty simple, apparently. That or they should be on/up the glass at night, so net them out after dark.
I've called someone that works at a fish store and he said he actually seen a rtc eat a assassin snail
What should I do? He recommended me to just change all the sand in my tank cause of the fish I have
