Will a ray work with a bichir?

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I haven't kept any myself but I've read a great article on rays and the whole "teacup" thing.

The Teacups are basically just babies. More then likely some sort of CB motoro or Florida ray. So you have to identify that specie specifically, take a picture and put it up and see what other members have to say.

another thing is rays should be in a round tank. If not round then round off the corners with some kind of decor so they don't get stuck in the corner.

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yeah i was thinking of a teacup as a starter are they hardy and small? i heard they were fine for a 55

while small, teacup rays (reticulated stingrays) are not hardy. Because they are so small they have extremely small mouths and its very hard to get them eating resulting in a dead ray. They really arent for beginners. If you want a beginner ray and have a pond like you said get a motoro.

Not sure do you have any suggestions? I was just generally thinking of a teacup due to what i have heard

Teacup rays are reticulated stingrays

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yeah i was thinking of a teacup as a starter are they hardy and small? i heard they were fine for a 55

No, teacup are moderately hard care and can get 18". Not being mean but in a 55 with your stock I doubt you would even be able to get it to eat.
 
plus, don't get a ornate if you're planning for a bichir, else the ray would be a snack, endli's on the other hand would be 50/50, Get some Delhezis, they look cool and much much more being a dino looking bichir. For the tank, like what anyone else says, get a large tank preferably 150g+ wide/long, depth wouldn't be a problem with those fish, and motoro would be a good start for a ray.
 
cmon guys . your all advising this guy with guesses.

teacup basically means any baby ray. its just a general term that was used many years ago to describe small rays. it doesnt apply to any specific type of ray but it is commonly applied to the cheapest most easily available rays and is the reason lots of people think of retics when people say teacup as they are generally the cheapest.

its a term not often heard anymore as people are more educated about rays now and are more aware of the differences and different species but if you see one in a shop labled teacup then it would suggest to me that the shop dont know much about rays or their requirements and are therefore likley to give you bad advice.

the round edges thing ?? ? thats the first time ive heard that in 16yrs of keeping and researching rays. ive bred mine several times in a rectangular tank and i see no problems with this.

you need to find out the type of ray and as someone suggested if your not sure then take a photo and post it up so you can find out the requirements , what it is and how big it could get.

if you buy a young ray make sure its eating and find out what so you can make sure you have what you need.

good luck :)
 
Most rays need 200+ gallon tanks so it would not work in a 55. The ray would be too big as soon as you get it most likely

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cmon guys . your all advising this guy with guesses.

teacup basically means any baby ray. its just a general term that was used many years ago to describe small rays. it doesnt apply to any specific type of ray but it is commonly applied to the cheapest most easily available rays and is the reason lots of people think of retics when people say teacup as they are generally the cheapest.

its a term not often heard anymore as people are more educated about rays now and are more aware of the differences and different species but if you see one in a shop labled teacup then it would suggest to me that the shop dont know much about rays or their requirements and are therefore likley to give you bad advice.

the round edges thing ?? ? thats the first time ive heard that in 16yrs of keeping and researching rays. ive bred mine several times in a rectangular tank and i see no problems with this.

you need to find out the type of ray and as someone suggested if your not sure then take a photo and post it up so you can find out the requirements , what it is and how big it could get.

if you buy a young ray make sure its eating and find out what so you can make sure you have what you need.

good luck :)

Ditto what he said about everything. And to add, theres a high chance ur bichir snips off the disc of your ray since it's already 9-12inch as u mentioned and u r intending to get a baby ray. Just a few threads up theres a good example with pic where a guy's baby stingray got its disc destroyed by his bigger bichir. Think it's called "stingray attacked". I personally feel compatability is about size of both fishes and whether u feed them well enough. Plecos might suck the slime off your ray's body too and in some cases cause bleeding om the disc. I do keep my rays with a common pleco without problem tho, so u can try with that. All the best!
 
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