will it come crashing down?

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i know having it 6' perpendicular to the joists is a better idea but sadly there is no where i could possibly put it where it runs like that,

id like to have the tank in the corner where the 2 cement load bearing walls meet (the outer walls of my house) oppose to the opposite corner of the room where only the one load bearing wall sits parallel to the tank.

not too sure how i would bring up that id like to place a 400 gal aquarium weighing 4000lbs+ on the 2nd floor to my landlord to a non fish keeper that sounds CRAZY :nilly:


Hello; Sounds like you want us to tell you it will be OK and you have not much to worry about? I do not see how we can give you such assurance. I strongly suspect there is a real risk to the structure. Even if the house is built properly, there is the question of what condition the structural components are currently in. Is it sound? Has someone cut into the joists and weakened them? My current house had some badly notched floor joists. I had to sister in additional joists to make it right. Plumbers and other contractors sometimes cut into things in a wrong way. That is what happened to my place. The point being that i could only tell if the place is sound by actually being on site and having a good luck. If you do not know about structure, then get someone who does to have a look.

Back to the landlord. I do not see how not talking to the owner about having such a heavy tank can be justified. It is his/her place and the tank you want is a significant risk. Even if the structure holds up, there is a potential for water damage. I had a 55 gallon let go on a wood floor. It ruined carpet and left a stain on the wood. I got lucky and got the floor dry before it buckled or warped. Can you afford to get renters insurance? can you afford to pay out of pocket for all repairs for the damage that can happen? If you are uncomfortable with talking to the owner now, imagine a conversation after damage is done.
 
i know there is a huge risk and i know the floor probably can't handle the weight without extra support i posted on here because i know that and i was hoping that someone would know as they too have put a large tank on the 2nd floor.

i said i dont know how to bring up that topic because to a non fish keeper a 90 gal is a huge tank let alone a 400 gal monster
 
Just because someone has a large tank on a first or second floor doesn't mean anything to anyone but them. Even if the floor doesn't collapse serious damage can be done by long term extreme weight. Construction and materials vary greatly. That said, anything over 75 gallons should be braced for the safety of the building. A 400 gallon would require serious bracing designed by a professional to prevent damage to the structure.

Seems like you might have plans that are larger than possible. Also insurance rarely covers damage caused by water beds or tanks falling through floors since it's wilfully negligent.
 
Just because someone has a large tank on a first or second floor doesn't mean anything to anyone but them. Even if the floor doesn't collapse serious damage can be done by long term extreme weight. Construction and materials vary greatly. That said, anything over 75 gallons should be braced for the safety of the building. A 400 gallon would require serious bracing designed by a professional to prevent damage to the structure.

Seems like you might have plans that are larger than possible. Also insurance rarely covers damage caused by water beds or tanks falling through floors since it's wilfully negligent.

Yep a 400g is about 3,300lbs of dead water weight, bracing the floor joists might hold the weight but the building will slowly shift due to the weight. My 3 stock tanks in the basement moved my foundation a few inches in that corner over a few years.




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Lol, at least you found out now. You coulda been here further down the road, and the thread would be, Why Won't My Tank Stay Level?? :D
 
Yep a 400g is about 3,300lbs of dead water weight, bracing the floor joists might hold the weight but the building will slowly shift due to the weight. My 3 stock tanks in the basement moved my foundation a few inches in that corner over a few years.




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Are you serious? I have a hard time believing weight on a concrete basement floor will move a foundation. How do you know that is what caused it? Better yet, explain how that could happen? I'm sorry, but that needs to be on Mythbusters.
 
Lol, at least you found out now. You coulda been here further down the road, and the thread would be, Why Won't My Tank Stay Level?? :D


haha the post might have been "how much water can i hold in my basement?" because it will already be on its way to being full may as well fill it right up and make it a hammerhead shark tank haha

thanks for the help everyone i almost did it without thinking but in the thought of having tanks on the 2nd floor how big is too big for the average home on the 2nd floor? i know people who have 150 gals on their 2nd floor that are only 24" wide
 
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