Will these be ok with a RTC?

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necrocanis said:
Tsn mouth are designed to open much larger than adult rtc. Anatomically their skulls are lighter and more loosely connected than rtc. Adult tsn can take larger prey than rtc. Rtc is an advanced and opportunistic predator that takes a wide variety of prey items but in the wild mainly crustaceans. Tsn is more of a sit abd wait predator and needs the very large mouth to take whatever sized prey comes close but will also actively hunt when hungry. Planiceps takes it even farther. The flatter the head and more compressed it is the larger the mouth can gape. Size of the body has nothing to do with it. 2' rtc mouth gapes about 5" but 2' tsn mouth can gape around 7". Much thinner fish but the anatomical design allows the mouth to open much farther. :) just though i would throw that out there.

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I missed your knowledge on here Cliff. Good to have ya back man.
 
T1KARMANN said:
you dont wont to pay $500 bucks for a fish but how much do you think the tank will cost to house the cats you mentioned

so your going to buy a $20 RTC TSN or hybrid then spend about $2000+ to set up a tank for it thats a smart move

if you dont have $500 to spend you need more money for large cats
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Emm... LOL, that is the TANK. I do not mind buying the food and tank because they are required. 500 dollars for a fish that may just get stung or eaten is ridiculous IMO. The most expensive fish i have ever got was my old jardini for 265 and that was alot!


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I guess i will just get the ray... I may go with some channel cats, are they better suited in a 800-1000 gallon tank? I know they can get just as big but from what i have heard they will most likely stay smaller then a RTC. Any other reccomendations on cats that can live with a ray???


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FuriousFish said:
I guess i will just get the ray... I may go with some channel cats, are they better suited in a 800-1000 gallon tank? I know they can get just as big but from what i have heard they will most likely stay smaller then a RTC. Any other reccomendations on cats that can live with a ray???


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rays and rtc dont mix well anyway

i have kept many tigrinus with rays with no problems

$500 is way over priced you can get a small tig for $150 and they grow very fast up to 12-16" anout 1-2" per month
 
T1KARMANN said:
rays and rtc dont mix well anyway

i have kept many tigrinus with rays with no problems

$500 is way over priced you can get a small tig for $150 and they grow very fast up to 12-16" anout 1-2" per month
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What about channel cats?????


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Lots of different thoughts on this-
Obviously you will get what YOU want in the end but here are my opinions-
Dont have pacu ever, every time ive seen them in public aquaria the cats have had chunks taken out of their fins.
Unless predatory cats are your dream it may be an idea to think about more widely compatible cats-you could have a giraffe cat or go dorid, a big pool/tank with pseudodorus niger, megaladorus and/or granulosus would allow you to keep a variety of other fish without predation, you could go for arowanas for top feeders or if that doesnt appeal shoals of tin foils, proculodus, silver sharks, oscars ect you could even mix in some of the larger synodontis species.
If you want shovelnoses you could have several limas-they get big in enough water, i had one upto about 19 inch just in an 8 footer so with plenty of food in your proposed set-up you might get them up to 2 foot but again with less scope for predation also consider sturio or port hole shovelnoses.
I know the appeal of the real monsters is strong but with many of them they are problems waiting to happen, once a fish gets over 24inch and again over 30in it becomes a different game keeping them, if you can settle on a limit for most of your fish of 2ft then you will find your hobby less stressfull (the dorids can be considered an exeption to this as they like to spend a lot of time acting like logs.
If you want to go the stingray route i would suggest a small group of them alone and you may get some young out of it.
 
Another neat amazonian pred catfish is the ageineosus marmoratus I believe its called. Shaped like a patroon shark but has a great pattern. The body shape makes me think of a whale shark, the way the eyes are positioned

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