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[Riftraft]

Just fed him another giant mealworm and ate it right away.

They still eat while they have ducklip. You really need to start meds ASAP and definitely lower temp to 75-78. I kept mine at 78 when I cured my guy. And make sure you do a big WC, but don't waste anymore time with this guy.


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[Dr_Shakalu]

I'm going to the lfs for medication in about an hour. It's been in a quarantine tank since last night in 75 degree water. If anyone sees this post, please tell me what meds I should use. There are so many different types people have used but I've heard many people have used metro. Can I get this at the store? Please respond ASAP because I'm leaving to the store in an hour!!! Thanks, Ed

 

[Aquanero]

Doc, what's going on over there? Again?

Drop the temp to 75F this is important. Treat with a combination of Metro & Furan-2 if you can't get Furan-2 use a gram neg antibiotic like kenamycin, erethromycin somthing along those lines. In extreamly tough cases Kanamycin can be used in conjunction with Furan-2/Metro as and effective treatment. Duck lips is deadly act fast or it could be too late if it's not already. Do a very large water change and clean those rocks or remove them they hold too much debris.

As an aside you might want to consider adding a UV sterilizer to your set up.

 

[fisheatfish]

In my opinion, I don't think it is duck lips. I had a similar problem where my male got a cut in its inner lower lip by an aggressive female that turned into a bad sore (similar looking to your guy) and its lips would protrude out like duck lips. Long story short, he couldn't eat so he became weaker by the day & his immune system broke down, developed hex & slowly died.

In any case, treat him with something. Good luck to you.

 

[FHlov]

either way, treat it, with some of the medications noted by aquanero. You can use maracyn-2 also, or Fish Mox. Most of the medications you use for columnaris will contain an active antibiotic that will clean up bacteria period, whether it's this or not. So it will help regardless of what it is by cleaning up any possible secondary infections which only make the case worse.

 

[Dr_Shakalu]

I just put some metro and maracyn 2 into the water. As far as feeding do I have to force feed it, try to feed him normally or fast until he gets better (I hope) or try to feed him normally? I've read so many ways. Hope it survives. Just got into flowerhorns and I like him the best.

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[Riftraft]

I just put some metro and maracyn 2 into the water. As far as feeding do I have to force feed it, try to feed him normally or fast until he gets better (I hope) or try to feed him normally? I've read so many ways. Hope it survives. Just got into flowerhorns and I like him the best.

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Minimal feedings and good luck with him.


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[Dr_Shakalu]

Before I put him in the quarantine tank, he was still trying to fight with the flowerhorn on the other side of the divider. Going to give a follow-up tomorrow even though it's probably too early to see any improvement. The quaratine tank i'm using is bare bottom so I don't have to worry about things trapped in the substrate and would be easier to clean because it's bare bottom. Everyone says to drop the temperature, which I did, and do water changes but everyone has a different opinion on what meds to use. Also, I read alot on this forum about ducklips and white poo but his is like normal.

 

[duanes]

A side profile shot would help determine ducks lips (or not). it progresses very quickly, and if you try to manually try to close the jaw, it doesn't move.
At first I thought my beani had a simple jaw dislocation, that can sometimes be snapped back in place, it would not.
Lowering the temp stops the bacteria from multiplying exponentially, and gives the fishes immune system a fighting chance to work, at 82'F or above the bacteria easily overwhelm.
here are some shots over a few days
at first a small separation appears around the lip

the gap gets larger, and so on, as the bacteria continually destroy inner tissue



I find it is always better to let your fish starve while on vacation, the only time I've had death is when I let someone else feed. Amateurs always feed to much, and have no clue about the seriousness of degrading water quality.

 

[Egon]

I find it is always better to let your fish starve while on vacation, the only time I've had death is when I let someone else feed. Amateurs always feed to much, and have no clue about the seriousness of degrading water quality.

+1

I actually stop feeding them a day or two before I leave if it's just a weekend trip or a short trip. Then I do a water change just before I leave. The fish can go a week with out any issues. Any longer than a week I try to get some one to feed them.