I'm very sorry for your lost Tommy. From your other thread, I thought you only lost the VATF, didn't know you also lost the Curupira. I had a similar incident a few years ago. 12in VATF got spook, went nut, rammed tank, and killed itself. When he was going nut, he spooked one of my big Endli. Endli went up, hit the lid so hard, killed itself as well. Everything happened in front of me for a matter of few minutes, if not seconds.