i think im gonna pass on it for now, pm me if you want though, im sure you could just ask him about it,
Xystichromis Kyoga Flamebacks
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let me know if you do 
, then we would EVENTUALLY be able to trade fry from two different vics 
, my two favs
, then we would EVENTUALLY be able to trade fry from two different vics , my two favs
mahemaheman85;2223577; said:let me know if you do
That would be cool. I'll let you know.
tydus;2223539; said:As for the pics, I will allow you to use these pics that I just took.
Compare them with structureguy's kyoga flamebacks, mine are very similar and remember, he used different camera settings and light setups.
http://african-cichlid.com/allred.htm
from the post I linked earlier..
"You are comparing apples and oranges.
The pictures of Haplochromis (Xystichromis) sp. 'Dayglow' on cichlid-forum and on Daves site are the same as they are my pictures.
The pictures of Haplochromis (Xystichromis) sp. "flameback' on Daves site is my picture and it is very much like the picture in the cichlid-forum profile.
Haplochromis (Xystichromis) sp. "Kyoga flameback' is a completely different species.
Welcome to the world of Victorian cichlid name confusion.
Kevin"
http://flickr.com/photos/25108506@N06/2463415004/
http://www.safhl.net/davesfish/images/Xystichromis Kyoga Flameback.jpg
http://www.safhl.net/davesfish/images/Xystichromis sp Flameback.jpg
http://www.africancichlids.net/gallery/index.php
I guess it is just my eyes but none of the fish I see listed as Xystichromis sp. "Kyoga Flameback" look like your fish.
tezr;2223633; said:
Remember not all fish always have to look like eachother. It maybe because of other elements, like lighting, camera settings, the fish's mood, etc. By the way, my fish are not the xystichromis flameback for the last time, they are xystichromis "KYOGA" flameback. But you still haven't answered my question, are you doubting that structureguy's kyoga flamebacks are fakes as well?
Here is a link to a member's kyoga flameback picture. Very similar to mine, and it's not even showing his bar. Are you doubting that his male isn't a kyoga flameback as well huh? I assure you that it is a kyoga flameback. Don't judge a book by its cover.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170367
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170367
tydus;2223524; said:Why am I hiding the ID of the seller?If you want it so bad then pm me.
You're not getting the point, I know my vics, I ain't stupid, the ones I have are not the ever so common xystichromis flameback but the kyoga flameback. Remember there is always the lighting of the tank that makes his color look different. Maybe that's why. And his lips are blue, not yellow. The tank and the lighting itself are very old, passed down from my brother-in-law back in the 90's. My guys look very close like structureguy's kyoga flamebacks on his site, african-cichlid.com. Look on his site, does his kyoga flamebacks have the bars? I don't think so, because its either the lighting or something. Do you have doubts that his aren't true kyoga flamebacks as well?
Yes up until I read this post on HCCC I would have doubted that they were sp. "Kyoga Flameback".
http://www.hillcountrycichlidclub.com/hcccBB/viewtopic.php?t=6043
Here is the link to the id thread
http://www.hillcountrycichlidclub.com/hcccBB/viewtopic.php?t=6389
Sorry you feel that there has been some attack on your intelect but I have never stated anything about it. OK since you know your vics what makes yours the sp. "Kyoga Flameback"? What are the distinguishing factors that seperate the two species?
This is the description I have found of the sp. "Kyoga Flameback"
"Xystichromis sp. "Kyoga flameback" has an elongated, laterally compressed "haplochromine" body shape. The cranial profile is straight or slightly convex with large eyes and a medium sized mouth. There is a broken and thickened mid lateral black bar running the length of the body from the caudal peduncle to the gill plate. In regards to male coloration, the top portion of the body, including the head is scarlet red. The lips and lower portion of the head is blue. The bottom portions of the flanks are lime-green and yellow. The dorsal fin is red foremost fading to blue at the rear while the caudal fin has blue streaks at the base flowing to completely red at the extremities. The anal fin is white-blue becoming red at the outer portion. The pelvic fins are jet-black. There is a straight black bar beginning at the corner of the lips and continuing through the eye. Female coloration is an unassuming tan-brown with the same markings found on the males. The lower jaw protrudes slightly beyond the upper. Bicuspid dentition is found in all but large adult males who show some unicuspid teeth in the outer rows. Wild populations are opportunistic insectivores who diet also consists of plant matter. Both sexes have an adult size of 12cm. These aspects are all consistent with the genus Xystichromis. Further research may result in a different or completely new designation, but for the time being, this seems to be the best fit."
What critera are you using to determine the species of your fish?
tezr;2223813; said:
See what I mean, this is getting very controversial. It's this simple, I paid good money for them from a very good seller and I expect them to be it. Obviously they are not xystichromis flameback. They just don't fit it, as said before, you are comparing apples and oranges. If you were to see my fish in person, you would notice. He has a very red face with blue lips and does show his bar at times when he is stressed. I am not able to capture his true form and colors. I wish I was able to, but I guess I don't have the right camera and lightings.
What makes my fish different from structureguy's besides different lighting and camera settings? Why do you continue to disbelieve that mine aren't kyoga flamebacks?
