Your preferred method of co2 dissolution?

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Interesting with the atomizers! For only change my Rexx Grigg is a brute and easier then Jenga to build! Both have similar methods of dissolving Co2 but when you think of a RG Reactor the Co2 enters 2/3's towards the top of the 2" diameter PVC and the canister input enters from the top so all the Co2 bubbles try to rise via gravity but the gph pushes it down thus dissolving it and the hose from the bottom is linked into the tank as a output. The only drawback is it slows down gph of the canister due to the fact there's a 90° angle and about 5' or so more of tubing. I run it off an xp3 or filstar L and flow is about 2/3 decreased but that's why an added power head/circulator is good!


Is there a lot of "back pressure" with the atomizer? Consistent bpm?

Eventually I want all of our methods to compare in a test, which computes gallons vs Co2 levels after an hour. If a 50 gallon tank manages 30ppm co2 levels after 30min while a 100 gallon tank manages the same Co2 levels after 60min I see no difference as long as the BPM of the 100gal is NOT more then double that of the 50gal. Lights off of course.

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There are a lot of methods that work excellent. I can't say what's the best it just depends on your setup. A long time ago I built a really tall co2 reactor 4"x 24" acrylic tube filled with bio balls water entered from the top exited the bottom. CO2 would literally fill the reactor about couple inches at the top. It was not really under any pressure the co2 would just absorb into the water just being in contact with it as water circulated through the reactor. The setup worked amazing so well many times I over did my co2 and nearly suffocated my fish many times!! This setup was on a 300 gallon tank water entered the tank through a spray bar on one side. I just wanted something more simple is why I tried the Atomic Atomizer and really liked it. Its small takes really no room up just hooks inline to my canisters exit water.
 
MyGiants said:
Is yours made by Atomic. It comes with a bracket that clips around the body that has suction cups. I don't use it I just let it suspend hang on the hose.
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No mine is not atomic, its by a taiwanese company... I guess just the outter shell threw me off a bit...


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Atomizers require a lot of pressure to operate. I have my regulator set at 45psi, anything less and pessure would build to the point that co2 would struggle to leave the needle valve.
 
bbortko said:
Atomizers require a lot of pressure to operate. I have my regulator set at 45psi, anything less and pessure would build to the point that co2 would struggle to leave the needle valve.
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Wow that's a lot. My regulator is set to 1psi, no wonder why those things are threaded!



-I just want to have valid numbers on which method is the most efficient & practical for every setup, this day in age we should have more solid facts on these devices. Almost like a diagram that shows BPS/GALLONS=??Co2ppm.

Obviously this would fluctuate tank to tank as we all have different currents, decor, tanks, plants etc. But just a approximate ppm that's based on facts would be nice, sort of like GPH with pumps or PAR with lighting. At least it would show you the max numbers you can manage with the right conditions. Some give you max BPS but that doesn't mean much besides sizing the right dissolution "gadget" for your tank. At the minimum it may save a persons fish from "over gassing," save your plants, algae issues, save money on refills etc etc.

There's so much info/stats on lighting the "PLANTED TANK" along with fertz/dosing, substrates etc! Its so high tech these days with every other element. Just seems like everything is covered with Co2 distribution (cylinders, regulators, solenoids etc) then its basically your guess as to what you think works good, consistent and is reliable, after all when you 1st take the plunge into "High Tech Aquascaping" balancing light & Co2 is paramount and most don't know what a Atomizer/Reactor is and often times just get a basic ceramic diffuser which we all know for decent size tanks is almost obsolete!


-Anyone can order the Cadillac of Co2 setups but w/o a good and effective dissolution method Its like "Hey you have a Ferrari with no engine!!"





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Yeah it be cool to see some comparisons on different methods of injecting co2. You would really need some way to accurately set BPS on each method to get an accurate comparison. Just tank pressure can effect your BPS. I think all the methods work just how much work you want to do. People who mix yeast and to make co2 that method works. I seen some amazing tanks using this method. I don't have the patience to do that. Those glass diffusers with the white stones those work really well just look at early Amano's tanks he just used this method I think he still uses that method. IMO they waste to much co2. I've done co2 through impellers. There a product Mr Aqua Turbo diffuser it looks like a powerhead it uses the method of injecting co2 through the impeller. That product worked pretty well it just takes up space you have to try to hide it behind plants. Reactors work really well almost all DIY methods I seen seem to work. Even just a big water change by itself make my plants really pearl up!
 
MyGiants said:
Yeah it be cool to see some comparisons on different methods of injecting co2. You would really need some way to accurately set BPS on each method to get an accurate comparison. Just tank pressure can effect your BPS. I think all the methods work just how much work you want to do. People who mix yeast and to make co2 that method works. I seen some amazing tanks using this method. I don't have the patience to do that. Those glass diffusers with the white stones those work really well just look at early Amano's tanks he just used this method I think he still uses that method. IMO they waste to much co2. I've done co2 through impellers. There a product Mr Aqua Turbo diffuser it looks like a powerhead it uses the method of injecting co2 through the impeller. That product worked pretty well it just takes up space you have to try to hide it behind plants. Reactors work really well almost all DIY methods I seen seem to work. Even just a big water change by itself make my plants really pearl up!
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Yea I agree most methods work fine given high injection rates! And since co2 is so cheap its not like it saves a boat load of cash but still id like to see some hard facts!


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