I've not been to Chatuchack for a while due to the flooding, but last time i was there i saw no baby indo. Maybe the vast majority of them have ended up in Sing this year.
Your thoughts on recent mini tiger boom
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I don't know if these are wild caught or farm bred. if its wild caught, this sort of reminds me of a lecture i had on sustainability. In the 1992 Rio conference, they said something about green national product, which means all product's value should include environmental degradation and depletion. At $5 a piece ( or less for wholesale n in other asian countries ) , I highly doubt that justify the cost of the environmental damage. Especially at the size i've seen them (3/4"-1"), they are so fragile that unexperienced keepers shouldn't even have access to at such an affordable price.
if they are farm bred, that might be a good thing for the wild population as that'll take some pressure off the wild. But still, $5 a piece does not seem to justify the value of this fish.
on that note , i would advise everyone to only get ONE or TWO if you really really want one/two ( and make sure you are capable of taking good care of it), instead of buying 20-100 just to brag and show off. Buying bulk would only drive demand up which might either drive wild population to extinction or cause fish farm ( if they are farm bred) to produce more and devalue such a beautiful fish. It would be too much to ask for law enforcement of possession limit, but we should all self regulate and leave some tigers for our future generations. Given good care, one tiger is enough as they live for quite a loooong time, and they grow quite big. I have ONE indo at 21" not twenty of them. Unless someone has a facility to house and study them for conservation, there's absolutely no need for more.
if they are farm bred, that might be a good thing for the wild population as that'll take some pressure off the wild. But still, $5 a piece does not seem to justify the value of this fish.
on that note , i would advise everyone to only get ONE or TWO if you really really want one/two ( and make sure you are capable of taking good care of it), instead of buying 20-100 just to brag and show off. Buying bulk would only drive demand up which might either drive wild population to extinction or cause fish farm ( if they are farm bred) to produce more and devalue such a beautiful fish. It would be too much to ask for law enforcement of possession limit, but we should all self regulate and leave some tigers for our future generations. Given good care, one tiger is enough as they live for quite a loooong time, and they grow quite big. I have ONE indo at 21" not twenty of them. Unless someone has a facility to house and study them for conservation, there's absolutely no need for more.
honestly what u say is ready true,but supplier gonna hate u for just keeping one till 21".
no business if all customer are to hv your mindset.just like we buy cloth,your mindset tell me that one pc of cloth can wear many many years,try save the earth save the cotton.attually nothing wrong with this,is up to individual.everyone expectation and thinking is not the same.
no business if all customer are to hv your mindset.just like we buy cloth,your mindset tell me that one pc of cloth can wear many many years,try save the earth save the cotton.attually nothing wrong with this,is up to individual.everyone expectation and thinking is not the same.
u dont buy others will still buy,doesnt matter u buy one or thousand,the main point is u know how to keep it alive or not,not the amount u buy ,buy 1-2pc,die already buy again,what the diff?everyone want nice thing,dont u?going for the perfection,dont u agree?this is life.when u go to lfs to buy fish,will u choose the ugliest fish?
if buy more represent showing off,this guy must be crazy my guess.
pay a little more can buy a CT or so call ST to tell that he/she can effort higher end fish.
buy 100 normal bag must well buying a LV bag instead if he/she trying to show off,this is what i think.
pay a little more can buy a CT or so call ST to tell that he/she can effort higher end fish.
buy 100 normal bag must well buying a LV bag instead if he/she trying to show off,this is what i think.
why must you have 100pcs of this fish? i mean yes i absolutely love this fish, but seriously.... unless you are going to setup a wild biotope setup and try for conservation and breeding Why the %^&$ would you need so many? the amount taken from the wild does not show that we care about this fish species. i mean really taking 1000 pieces of this fish from the river is 1000 less babies that could possibly stay and maybe reproduce. the point is we cannot sustain a wild population of this fish when people are buying up all of the future population.
Because not all of them will make it to adult
Because it is cheap to buy them in bulk and can resell them for profit
I heard from a supplier, he said he is going to bring in 1000+ pieces into Canada, and sell them @ the price of fancy guppy
Because it is cheap to buy them in bulk and can resell them for profit
I heard from a supplier, he said he is going to bring in 1000+ pieces into Canada, and sell them @ the price of fancy guppy
So they are gonna be dirt cheap, high mortality rate because noobies will buy them and kill em. all the while bleeding the river of its beautiful little tigers. i really want to believe those little guys are captive bred but i would like to have some proof.
Does anybody know what kind of spawners they are? or how it is they reproduce?
Does anybody know what kind of spawners they are? or how it is they reproduce?
my sentiments exactly. A challenge to anyone. Get proof, get the name of the farm, go and as the vendors who they buy them off, tell some lies and say you're writing a theses for a PHD. That's what i did.
There are lots of Arowana breeders in Sing, if Dats a farm bred they'll have the resource to do it. Don't just post speculation on here, go and find facts. I don't believe they're farm bred because i did that 2 years ago here.
Suppliers are gonna hate but we, as consumers, have absolute power over them through our demand. Your analogy is slightly inaccurate as I didn't mean that you should only buy ONE piece of cloth. One should buy as many cloth as he needs for different occassions. But I don't see in any occassion when one would need like 100 baby dats ( other than conservative study).
fish have a higher death rate when packed in a small tank, which is what is happening when it is becoming affordable to those that are incapable of keeping the amount of fish they get. If i don't buy, that would mean one less person on the demand side, one less person to contribute to the social trend. Social trends sometimes are not logical, but people just follow it blindly. One less person contributing to the social trend might not stop the trend, but I can guarantee that it does have an effect (however small percentage it may be, at least it is a start ) .
Going back to talking about how affordable they are, if someone buys 100, 50% dies off , he can probably afford to buy another 50 or 100 since it is so affordable. But if the price is adjusted to reflect their true value and people only buys 1 or 2, when one or two dies, they will get another one or two to replace... thats 4 tigers compared to 200 tigers...
No doubt everyone wants nice thing which is why I don't discourage buying just one or two. Buying 100 would not make them any nicer but instead it would devalue them. You don't choose the ugliest fish, you just buy one or two nice fish. The key is knowing how many is enough.
Good point. There are these crazy people on Earth though. It would seem like if they are buying 100 IT, they are already trying to hog all the ct / st whenever available. Again, the key to change the game would be to let them learn what is enough.
More will not make it to adult when these babies are on the hands of inexperienced at this price. Just because it is cheap, it doesn't mean it is morally right to buy them all.
