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FlammingWoodChuck
08-23-2005, 12:34 AM
How big to tropical gars get???? what size tank??? how agressive are they???? what are some of the tank mates they can have if any????
FlammingWoodChuck
08-24-2005, 8:32 PM
SOME ! PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ HELP ME I WANA GET ONE BUT I NEED SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh ya i have another will they be able to live with Aros?
redtailfool
08-24-2005, 9:18 PM
49 inches is the max in the wild. So yeah they get pretty big. :eek:
They shouldnt hit that big in the tank though. Probably 2-3 feet , just like
an arowana. But it will take years for that to happen.
FlammingWoodChuck
08-24-2005, 9:32 PM
ty for actually helping me. like 17+ ppl have veiwed this and not 1 answered even 1 question
ok ill probly get one in with my Aro but ill have to make sure it dosent eat it :eek:
redtailfool
08-24-2005, 9:32 PM
ty for actually helping me. like 17+ ppl have veiwed this and not 1 answered even 1 question
ok ill probly get one in with my Aro but ill have to make sure it dosent eat it :eek:
Theyll be fine.. just make sure they are of equal size.
FlammingWoodChuck
08-24-2005, 9:36 PM
K. right now my Silver Aro is about 10" mabe more. man i gat to get him that 60g soon
you have to watch out, I've heard of arowanas bullying gars.
;)
are spotted gars considered as tropical gars? if no, does anyone have any picture of how tropical gars look like?
d20monsteroscar20
08-25-2005, 12:16 AM
I would help if I knew about them but I dont. I have a frind that have them in a 210 and they are still babies. cool fish
piranha45
08-25-2005, 12:20 AM
http://images.google.com/images?q=tropical+gar&hl=en
http://images.google.com/images?q=tropical+gar&hl=en
thanks. some of the pictures looks like they are spotted. :) so tropical gars are spotted gars? :confused:
piranha45
08-25-2005, 12:40 AM
no, they're different species
no, they're different species
icic. they are native to which parts of the world?
piranha45
08-25-2005, 1:01 AM
this should refine things for you...
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Atractosteus&speciesname=tropicus
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.cfm?genusname=Lepisosteus&speciesname=oculatus
icic. they are native to which parts of the world?
Tropical gars are from Central America.
Cuban gars are from Cuba.
All other gars (spotted, floriday, alligator, shortnose, longnose) are from North America.
Did I miss any?
thanks guys for the info. helps. :)
guppy
08-25-2005, 12:21 PM
Sorry woochuck, I wasn't ignoring you, it is just that I have never kept one and didn't know if you were asking about the true gars or the fish sold as gars like hujetas or needle fish. True gars in general are supposedly fairly mellow with fish more than 1/2 their own size and the same is said to be true of aros but it depends on the individual fish, a freinds silver aro is a bully and picks on anything not bigger than it is.
FlammingWoodChuck
08-25-2005, 6:49 PM
thx. i just wanted some help and i saw like 20 ppl had looked but 0 replies
T-gars are awesome fish, I have one in a tank right next to me as I'm typing this. Unfortunenately as far as I know there aren't any for sale in the US as the importer of them has now sold out, and I don't think that anyone plans on bringing them back into the US (they are expensive, and good ol' George at the Shark Aquarium took quite a chance in bringing them in... and it is much appreciated!). By the way, are you by any chance asking this because you saw the article on them in TFH? If so, you may like to know that Sol (E_americanus) who is a member of this board wrote that article. :)
Polypterus
08-27-2005, 7:04 PM
Trop Gars are very unique among gars, they are in fact the most primitive of the Genus Atractosteus. Unfortunatly though the above is correct and none of these fish are available in the US once again. I'm not seeing them coming in again for a very long time.
For those interested here are a few pics of the fish imported from Mexico from George at Shark Aquarium.
Cool! Richard's here too. B) I'll post a pic of mine soon, once I find my camera, lol... maybe we can the t-gar owners together and post the pics of the off-colored ones also. :)
Polypterus
08-27-2005, 10:40 PM
Cool! Richard's here too. B) I'll post a pic of mine soon, once I find my camera, lol... maybe we can the t-gar owners together and post the pics of the off-colored ones also. :)
I will be anywhere Anachronistic predatory fish are Dan. :P
Especially my favorite the Lepisostidae
Love of Gar knows no boundaries :)
redtailfool
08-28-2005, 4:12 PM
Tropical Gars can still be bought here in the US . Pm me if you want to order em.
T-Gars are sought after because they are rare. Unfortunately, they dont appeal to much to me ( or maybe fortunately so i dont have to spend money? :D ) . Cuban Gars ,on the other hand are yummy.
rayman45
08-28-2005, 5:12 PM
there all the same imo
Tropical Gars can still be bought here in the US . Pm me if you want to order em.
T-Gars are sought after because they are rare. Unfortunately, they dont appeal to much to me ( or maybe fortunately so i dont have to spend money? :D ) . Cuban Gars ,on the other hand are yummy.
Really? From who? George was the only one to bring them in, and they're sold out... of course, someone could've bought several and is selling them now, LOL.
BTW Wes, I agree, the gold color that develops on Cubans is very cool. B)
Peanut_Power
08-29-2005, 12:12 AM
Yeah, SOMEONE bought 11 T-gars from George...interestin #...wonder why he chose that odd number...:P
there all the same imo
Here's a difference:
10" Spotted gar - $20; 10" Tropical gar - $300
LOL :p
Peanut_Power
08-29-2005, 12:14 AM
....hmm.....I think T-gars are much better lookin! By far my fav. gar out there...next to crocidile gars! :D
Yeah, SOMEONE bought 11 T-gars from George...interestin #...wonder why he chose that odd number...:P
That's how many he had left. :p It wasn't because you told to buy 11 a month ago, LOL.
....hmm.....I think T-gars are much better lookin! By far my fav. gar out there...next to crocidile gars! :D
Yeah, the color of the crocs, trops, and Cubans are all pretty cool... the 'gators have some nice patterns too.
Peanut_Power
08-29-2005, 12:25 AM
That's how many he had left. :p It wasn't because you told to buy 11 a month ago, LOL.
I know...i was just messin bro! I'm tellin yaz!! That odd # is gonna do wonders for yaz! Ur gonna thank me in the long run!! you will seee!!!
LOL... whatever you say Jer, whatever you say... :p
Peanut_Power
08-29-2005, 12:28 AM
U'll see!! Mark my words....10 was doomed for failure...but that extra one is gonna be what turns the tides on ur success!! :D
redtailfool
08-29-2005, 12:34 AM
Really? From who? George was the only one to bring them in, and they're sold out... of course, someone could've bought several and is selling them now, LOL.
BGG.. then there you go.. you have all the answers. Saw them swimming lazily in the lower tanks and thought they were still for sale. Tell G to make sure he puts a mark on those bad boys as the staff might bag them up by mistake. LOL
Peanut_Power
08-29-2005, 12:37 AM
OH MAN THAT WOULD BE FUNNY!!! LOL!! Someone sells ur special t-gars...especially that extra one...;)...of 'cheaper' value....:P
redtailfool
08-29-2005, 12:39 AM
Its unlikely to happen. Knowing G he has already given a heads up to his staff
that those fish arent to be touched. If a tank has fish without a price tag, its not to be sold...
But then again... there was a tag and price on it !
BGG im just kidding. The gars are not gonna disappear im sure.
BGG.. then there you go.. you have all the answers. Saw them swimming lazily in the lower tanks and thought they were still for sale. Tell G to make sure he puts a mark on those bad boys as the staff might bag them up by mistake. LOL
LOL! Sure thing... though it is unlikely, I don't want to take any chances, LOL. :D
Peanut_Power
08-29-2005, 1:14 AM
Now all i gotta do is somehow get the shippin address changed to my addresss! AH HAHAHAH!!
It's not an address, it's an airport. Checkmate! AHA! :p
cuban jey
08-29-2005, 1:48 AM
yo bgg are you ever planning on selling any or do you have a devious plan for em :naughty:
I have a devious plan for 'em, LOL. I might end up selling a couple somewhere down the line though.
Peanut_Power
08-29-2005, 2:09 AM
Well than it will be even easier to get the flight reschedualed! HA!! STALEMATE!!
Yes, I'm sure that George won't think that anything's wrong when I email him from a different email address and ask to have my package sent to NE. LOL!
Oh man, we've derailed this thread sooo much, lol...
Peanut_Power
08-29-2005, 2:15 AM
I'll just get a computer hacker friend of mine....have to make one...lol....and have him/her hack into ur email...then I'll make up some devious plan....ah hahaha!! Saying u suddenly decided u r moving to nebraska and want them shipped there...or or...mango is allergic to t-gars...so evasive manuevers need to be made!! Do not underestimate my creativity!! BAH HAHAHA!! TO THE BAT CAVE!!
Peanut_Power
08-29-2005, 2:16 AM
Oh man, we've derailed this thread sooo much, lol...
SCORE ONE FOR THE DYNAMIC DUO!!!
suckerfish
12-13-2005, 5:26 PM
BGG, if you ever decide to sell some, i'd like to add some to mine.
Im4u2nV
12-28-2005, 10:05 PM
in Indonesia, Gars can be bred....i've seen some baby size around 3" - 5" for sale...dunno which species though..
tigerfish
12-28-2005, 10:12 PM
i have 2 18' gars and the eat cichlid pellets, a hint :thumbsup:
tgstansberry
12-31-2005, 11:34 PM
Where can you buy tropical gars